Paulsmartv11 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Surely one of the most gorgeous bikes ever made? I nearly bought a new one many years ago, bought the V11 instead...doh...!! even crashed its apparently worth 3 times more than my V11...DOH! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTO-GUZZI-MAGNI-AUSTRALIA-RENOVATION-BARN-FIND-RARE-CLASSIC-/261303626816#ht_662wt_1058 Smart
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I saw that one too! What a nice bike ... makes an 888 Ducati look lame!
Lucky Phil Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I saw that one too! What a nice bike ... makes an 888 Ducati look lame! Dont know if you're living in a parrallel universe Jim but a Ducati SP2/3/4 would chew one of these up and spit it out. Even a std 888 would probably be better. There are a few reasons a Guzzi has never won a WSB race let alone a Championship and one is because they are an archaic design as a sports bike from which to build the platform for a racer. Even as a road sports bike that fundamental design shortcoming is plainly obvious to anyone that owns a guzzi and a modern sports bike. From memory the Marni bikes did very little to correct this, mainly because the primary limitation is the engine transmission architexture Ciao
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Hmmmmm ....... I suppose I could point out to you the fact that an MGS-01 did rather well beating much more recent models of Ducati at Daytona and in Italy and probably many other places ...... but that's not what I meant. I was talking about looks .... and I like the looks of an 888. But I like the looks of the Magni Guzzi even more. In the hands of a talented rider such a Mr. Guareschi even a lowly V7 can make more powerful bikes look lame if you are referring to racing and not looks! Sent from my electronic device!
Lucky Phil Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Hmmmmm ....... I suppose I could point out to you the fact that an MGS-01 did rather well beating much more recent models of Ducati at Daytona and in Italy and probably many other places ...... but that's not what I meant. I was talking about looks .... and I like the looks of an 888. But I like the looks of the Magni Guzzi even more. In the hands of a talented rider such a Mr. Guareschi even a lowly V7 can make more powerful bikes look lame if you are referring to racing and not looks! Sent from my electronic device! Ok Jim, your talking about looks,thats purely subjective, but for what its worth I think an 888 SP4 looks way better. As for racing success, well I dont consider Daytona and the other "amature" ( respectfully) race series around the world as any real indication of the ultimate worth of a sportsbike design. To many variable inc the ability of the people that prep and engineer the bike and the biggest one as you pointed out The Rider. The Britten is a good example...I love it as a creation and engineering piece, it appeals to my engineers brain but in truth it never won anything of any real note and had a few major design flaws/limitations. The only true way to judge the ultimate value of a design from a performance perspective is in the white heat of battle at the very top echalons of racing. My current yardstick for ultimate potential as a pure sportsbike bike design is WSB and for the ultimate sportsbike design as a road bike its world Superstock. Anything that can win in WSS 600 or 1000 is going to be a seriously good sportsbike for the road. Ciao
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I think most of the bikes that lose in WSS and WSB would be seriously good sportbikes by that yardstick. Sent from my electronic device!
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 They are both works of art ... and Falappa was a crazy fast racer ..... but I still like the looks of the Magni just a little bit more ....!!
Lucky Phil Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Hey Jim whos that riding the Magni in the Hailwood leathers? Ciao
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I'm not sure but I think that is young Dave. I didn't even think of that when I posted but I'll have to check. I'll send him a message .... Hopefully he'll understand my French. Sent from my electronic device!
GraeV11 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I saw this on Ebay too and it is only 10 miles from me. I think though that it has taken too much of a thump for my fat fingers to bring it back to life. Will leave it to those who know better and have more money than me. Would look nice in the lounge though !
Guzzirider Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 I would not kick either bike out of bed, but would buy the Magni if I had the cash.
jihem Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 I haven't ridden a Magni but I have ridden SP2, SP4 and SP5 Ducatis and the SP5 was just incredible.
Paulsmartv11 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Posted October 14, 2013 I saw this on Ebay too and it is only 10 miles from me. I think though that it has taken too much of a thump for my fat fingers to bring it back to life. Will leave it to those who know better and have more money than me. Would look nice in the lounge though ! Yep - you have to wonder why its not been fixed, its looks like its been stored in a well equiped workshop, so would guess the owner is quite handy with the spanners. Good luck to any new owner!
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