czakky Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 If I didn't like riding this damn bike so much I would never be in a hurry.
czakky Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 Cover off! So you can probably guess my next question.... Where do all these bolts go?..... Kidding. How do you tell what a worn out cam chain tensioner looks like? I read up a little on past threads and it seems like failures are few and far between. The tensioner has like a 1-1.5 mm of play on it. Compared to any other tensioner I've seen there really isn't much tension. I have pics but they don't really show much. Sorry if you guys feel like you're holding my hand through this I have aspirations to one day be a grizzled old Guzzi vet, and you guys are all helping me realize this dream!
docc Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 What? No microscopic close-up the the tensioner?
czakky Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 haha... sorry Docc, trying something new here
gstallons Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 How deep are the groove in the tensioner where is against the chain ?
czakky Posted January 24, 2014 Author Posted January 24, 2014 Grooves are pretty shallow. Went ahead and slapped her back together. I had the metal gasket which I thought seemed oxymoronic, but what do I know. Snugged the timing screws all up, not tight but snug and then I notice a piece of my crank seal didn't cooperate. D'oh! Loosen all 72 screws again set the seal and tighten em all up. I used a tiny amount of this Hylomar stuff on both sides of the gasket..... Preliminary results not good..... I didn't have time to go for a real ride but there appears to be some weeping in a new area. I shouldn't have trusted this metal gasket. Gstallions your advice about taking my time and working deliberately were echoing around when I saw that crank seal. D'oh! Just realized what you meant Docc. No, really, this is the time!
emry Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Get two cranks seals. You have already screwed up the installed one, you might not get the first replacement, just... right... so that way you have another available while the process is fresh in your head. Saves you a bit of waiting for the mail. After several gaskets on my timing cover failed early on during the warranty period, I finally just removed the gasket and used Hylomar (if I recall) in its place. Hasn't leaked in the past 10 years. Yamabond 6B would also work well, it is made for metal to metal contact and is black so it will not stand out as a funny line.
czakky Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 That seal is no good?,.... bummer. I had read your old thread about the Hylomar that's what sold me on it. Didn't want to do this twice. But if I'm not persistent....
gstallons Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Loctite make an anaerobic sealer...it is good on these applications too. Make sure all oils are off of the gaskets, gasket surfaces, etc....
gstallons Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I would go with the Loctite 515 gasket elimintor.. Not too expensive , you can go together ( w/no oils) w/o a gasket . The Yamabond is a good choice too. Practice on some spare parts before doing this. You need a good application w/just enogh to ooze out of the joining surfaces .
czakky Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 Is there a reason you don't like Hylomar? or have you had good results from Loctite?
gstallons Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 No....Hylomar is one of the best gaket dressings ever made. I just use the Loctite in place of gaskets whenever possible. You just have to use it on similar metals.. e.g. aluminum on aluminum . Sanitary surfaces & a good bead on the surface.
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