GuzziMoto Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 I have a '93 Daytona. I paid around $6k for it with around 12k miles on it. I ride it fairly often, it is my favorite Guzzi. I have put some effort into it to make it better than it came from the factory (the purists may scream). I swapped the forks to GSXR spec, in doing so I switched to handle bars. I swapped the seat / tail section to V11. The 4 valve motor is really cool, but not exactly known as a pillar of reliability. I have a gear set and oil pump to upgrade it, but I have not gotten around to it yet. The Daytona stock is a long bike with a reach to the bars. The stock seat is not comfortable. That is why I did some of the things I did to mine. But those issues aside, it is a seriously cool ride with a feel that nothing, not even a V11 can match. It is not a case of better or worse, it is a case of different. The Daytona has a long legged hot rod tractor feel. It goes pretty stupidly fast without feeling like its even breaking a sweat. The handling is like a V11 but longer and more stable. I love mine, but I can't imaging paying that much for one. Is it worth it to you? that is a personal question. I bought mine from one of my best friends. I rode it the day he bought it new and told him if he ever sells it I want it. 15 years later he was diagnosed will a terminal disease and decided it was a good time to sell it to me. Now it is mine and it is my favorite Guzzi. My Griso is nice, the wifes V11 is great, and our V65 Lario is pretty cool. But the Daytona is a special bred of Guzzi that has a rawness and appeal that newer ones lack. It is not a perfect bike, it has more quirks than newer Guzzi's do. But it is clearly different than any other bike I have ever ridden. 1
savagehenry Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Ever look into a Centaro? Still got that 4 valve lump, and a lot less money. They're damn ugly IMHO, but that doesn't matter when you're riding it.
GreenIce Posted November 19, 2015 Author Posted November 19, 2015 I have a '93 Daytona. I paid around $6k for it with around 12k miles on it. I ride it fairly often, it is my favorite Guzzi. I have put some effort into it to make it better than it came from the factory (the purists may scream). I swapped the forks to GSXR spec, in doing so I switched to handle bars. I swapped the seat / tail section to V11. The 4 valve motor is really cool, but not exactly known as a pillar of reliability. I have a gear set and oil pump to upgrade it, but I have not gotten around to it yet. The Daytona stock is a long bike with a reach to the bars. The stock seat is not comfortable. That is why I did some of the things I did to mine. But those issues aside, it is a seriously cool ride with a feel that nothing, not even a V11 can match. It is not a case of better or worse, it is a case of different. The Daytona has a long legged hot rod tractor feel. It goes pretty stupidly fast without feeling like its even breaking a sweet. The handling is like a V11 but longer and more stable. I love mine, but I can't imaging paying that much for one. Is it worth it to you? that is a personal question. I bought mine from one of my best friends. I rode it the day he bought it new and told him if he ever sells it I want it. 15 years later he was diagnosed will a terminal disease and decided it was a good time to sell it to me. Now it is mine and it is my favorite Guzzi. My Griso is nice, the wifes V11 is great, and our V65 Lario is pretty cool. But the Daytona is a special bred of Guzzi that has a rawness and appeal that newer ones lack. It is not a perfect bike, it has more quirks than newer Guzzi's do. But it is clearly different than any other bike I have ever ridden. Thanks for your post. That was a lot of info and I can see why you would love your Daytona, especially considering it belonged to a friend. Hate to hear why he decided to sell. Seems as though you have some history and experience with Moto Guzzi, which I do not. It's the reason I have asked for input. My heart can't really speak to me about this bike. I know it is a unique opportunity, I love motorcycles and am gaining a lot of affinity for the MG brand. Again, thanks for your post. I have a decision to make pretty soon!
Stick Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Seems like the only way to retain that Daytona's high value is to not ride it. I have seen low mile ones go for far less. That would be my choice. Truth be told, I'd rather have the later 1100Sport I, ($5 - $7k) for riding. The only "practical" reason for me to buy a bike is for the joy it brings to ride it. No disrespect to collectors. They make values go up, and it's their money. I agree with Footgoose. A Sport 1100 or Sport 1100i is a fraction of the cost, and will give you the "entry" into Moto Guzzi that you're looking for. I see by the list of bikes you have that you do tend to like the sport-side of riding. That said, I bought a 1996 Sport 1100 a few years ago that filled an itch that I've had for many years. Just looking at this bike stirs the adrenaline level. It's actually featured in my formal foyer of my house! Next year I plan to put a few more pleasurable miles on her... It's a much more reasonable bike to buy, especially if you'd like to "try" it. And, if your condition (sorry to hear about your ailment) cannot put up with the ergonomics, you will most likely be able to sell it easily without losing a ton of money.
Ray1150 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 There is a daytona over here that keeps appearing in different forums and other media as one of 200 something special blah blah blah the bloke is looking for £10,000. There have been no takers and I don't think there will be. If it's chump change to you buy it, don't however look for a return or view it as an investment. As savagehenry says and I have often thought myself Centaros are disappearing fast as a lot of people think they're plug ugly and tear out the lump for other things junking the rest. A lot cheaper and really could be an investment in time.
GreenIce Posted November 21, 2015 Author Posted November 21, 2015 There is a daytona over here that keeps appearing in different forums and other media as one of 200 something special blah blah blah the bloke is looking for £10,000. There have been no takers and I don't think there will be. If it's chump change to you buy it, don't however look for a return or view it as an investment. As savagehenry says and I have often thought myself Centaros are disappearing fast as a lot of people think they're plug ugly and tear out the lump for other things junking the rest. A lot cheaper and really could be an investment in time. Chump change notwithstanding , I'm leaning further from this purchase. $25K could buy something just as special that I could feel positive about riding, i.e., the normal and expected depreciation. Alaska is a tough place to own a Moto Guzzi (no dealers). I like the Aprilia marque, but the only dealer here is known to be shady and has a bad reputation. A lot of good info has been sent my way and it is greatly appreciated. And the $25K is just the asking price. We haven't had a chance to discuss the final numbers as yet.
footgoose Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I don't know if it's been mentioned, but a bike that's been stagnant for 20+ years may require a crap load of maintenance. For riding or even starting, it'll want a really good looking after. Even when stored optimally, time takes it's toll. The cost of that may help in negotiations. All else aside, they are beautiful machines. I'd enjoy seeing her in my shop every day.
GreenIce Posted November 25, 2015 Author Posted November 25, 2015 I don't know if it's been mentioned, but a bike that's been stagnant for 20+ years may require a crap load of maintenance. For riding or even starting, it'll want a really good looking after. Even when stored optimally, time takes it's toll. The cost of that may help in negotiations. All else aside, they are beautiful machines. I'd enjoy seeing her in my shop every day. Yes, I've seen where minimum would be to replace the cam belts and all fluids. Depending on how it's been stored it would probably need many seals and the tires. It doesn't seem smart to buy it, spend even more money on it to ride it, where it would most likely be worth around half. They do look beautiful, but I have never seen a Moto Guzzi on Alaska roads, let alone a Daytona.
Kiwi_Roy Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 You have one in Sitka, a Convert built into a trike, I'm sure there are others. Sent from my shoe phone!
GreenIce Posted November 25, 2015 Author Posted November 25, 2015 You have one in Sitka, a Convert built into a trike, I'm sure there are others. Sent from my shoe phone! Wow. That's unexpected for Sitka, but we cycle addicts are all over. I was in Sitka for two weeks back in 1992 or 1993, but didn't see any MGs. Way more boats and airplanes. I see you're from New Westminster. I've been through there 8 times driving from Alaska to the U.S. East Coast, including this summer. Are there many winding roads for you to enjoy your bikes?
Ray1150 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 You have one in Sitka, a Convert built into a trike, I'm sure there are others. Sent from my shoe phone! Trikes, all the disadvantages of a bike with - all the disadvantages of a car........................
JRD Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Greenice- I just bought my '02 LeMans this past spring from an individual in Houston, Texas. With 3,033 miles showing on the odometer, as soon as it was delivered I checked the date code stamp on the tires, which looked brand new, and they showed a manufacture date of 2001 leading me to believe the mileage was true as indicated. Next, I took the seat off and rummaged around the cowl section where I found an Alaska Application for Title. The bike had originally sold in Alaska and went thru two owners before being shipped to Texas! Im sure they are a rare sight up there. Enjoy
LowRyter Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Sitka? Road Kill (Wild Guzzi board) is in Sitka.
GreenIce Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 Greenice- I just bought my '02 LeMans this past spring from an individual in Houston, Texas. With 3,033 miles showing on the odometer, as soon as it was delivered I checked the date code stamp on the tires, which looked brand new, and they showed a manufacture date of 2001 leading me to believe the mileage was true as indicated. Next, I took the seat off and rummaged around the cowl section where I found an Alaska Application for Title. The bike had originally sold in Alaska and went thru two owners before being shipped to Texas! Im sure they are a rare sight up there. Enjoy That's amazing, at least to me. Very nice to find original documentation for a vehicle like that. Do you know if it sold new in Alaska through a dealer? There are no MG dealerships here, but I have dealt with dealers who are willing to be a hub for the shipping of a marque they don't sell. Did the other two owners live in Alaska before being shipper to TX? We have a short riding season so low mileage machines can be the norm. Thanks for the post. Really enjoyed it.
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