What did you do to your V11 today?

[audiomick]

11 minutes ago, Tomchri said:

... curb....

"Curve", most likely. "Curb" ist the edge of the gutter or footpath on the side of the road.

Edited Tuesday at 12:25 AM by audiomick

[docc]

13 minutes ago, audiomick said:

"Curve", most likely. "Curb" ist the edge of the gutter or footpath on the side of the road.

Haha: "English" lesson:

"Curve" on motorcycle = good!

Curve "too fast" on motorcycle = bad! 

"Curb" (edge of the road) on motorcycle =  very bad! 

[audiomick]

@docc

you got it down.

[Chuck]

Steering head bearings too tight? Steering damper? IMWTK.

[Tomchri]

A bit more correct measures today and measureing the trail difference between the 2 Greenie's, 8mm. A very short testride will tell. Shoud be able to feel difference with just rising the forks, but perty sure not enough.
Be prepeared for more quessing with my eeenglish
Cheers Tom.


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[Tomchri]

Not sure I follow what you're saying, but am interested!  My Norwegian language skills are just barely above "zero", though I try, so i'm not complaining.  Sounds like you did take the beauty for a spin and she wasn't behaving?

She have no interest of going thru a sharp CURVE, no help from the bike. And then when she finally get it, she is quikly ready for to much. Clamps belong on a track, me think. You realy have to be the boss.
Cheers Tom.

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[Tomchri]

A little testride today, what a difference. Not perfect in a roundabout, but so much better.
Raised the forks 1.5mm extra today, that's max because of different dia on the forks.
At least found out why she was behaving like she was.
Original clamps later.
Cheers Tom.

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[docc]

1 hour ago, Tomchri said:

A little testride today, what a difference. Not perfect in a roundabout, but so much better.
Raised the forks 1.5mm extra today, that's max because of different dia on the forks.
At least found out why she was behaving like she was.
Original clamps later.
Cheers Tom.

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Is there a chance these are the very early V11 Sport clamps that were carried over from the 1100 Sport production?

[Tomchri]

No marking or numbers underneat. Think you mentioned that's an very early Greenie.
If a V11 had those clamps in the showrom, NOT 1 woud have been sold. Never ever ridden a bike with a frontend feeling like that
Today a nice day , may be IPA.
Cheers Tom.

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[docc]

2 hours ago, Tomchri said:

No marking or numbers underneat. Think you mentioned that's an very early Greenie.
If a V11 had those clamps in the showrom, NOT 1 woud have been sold. Never ever ridden a bike with a frontend feeling like that
Today a nice day , may be IPA.
Cheers Tom.

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Do those clamps look similar/same to those on your 1100 Sport?

[edit: Actually, with them parked side-by-side, that Meanie-Greenie's clamp looks even more aggressive than the Sport-i !

[Tomchri]

Looks a little similar, but 1100Sport seems original, just the bananas material cutting. I'm very pleased with the way she handles.
Coud be a machinist made clamp.
Lot's of paper to go thru for evidence.
Cheers Tom.

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[PJPR01]

Exactly why do they put springs on those exhaust headers.  I mean, how likely is it that both exhaust nuts or bolts are going to come undone, and the spring is the only thing holding it on.  Surely there must be a good explanation, other than aesthetics.

Any ideas?

[Tomchri]

Looks a little similar, but 1100Sport seems original, just the bananas material cutting. I'm very pleased with the way she handles.
Coud be a machinist made clamp.
Lot's of paper to go thru for evidence.
Cheers Tom.

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Fahrwerk Tuning must be a clue.
Cheers Tom.

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[audiomick]

1 hour ago, Tomchri said:

Fahrwerk Tuning must be a clue.
 

For those who don't happen to speak German....

Those documents were produced by a company that doesn't seem to exist anymore. A quick search turned up a newest reference from 2010 in some forum or other. Nothing newer.

What's on the page?

Farhzeuggeometrie = Vehicle geometry. Lenkkopfwinkel = steering head angle. Nachlauf = trail. Radstand = wheelbase. So the first section is all about the basic dimensions of the bike.

In the next section:

Winkelabweichung = Angle deviation.

Verdrehung = "twist".

"zur" = "to the".

"zum" = also "to the". Has to do with conjugation with various different genders for the definite article. 

"zu" = also "to the".

Just take it for granted...

Lenkkopf = steering head. Schwingenachse = swingarm pivot.

Vorderrad = front wheel, Hinterrad = rear wheel, Lenkachse = the axis of rotation through the steering head.

In the last section:

Versatz = offset (i.e. error in that case)

Räder = wheels

Radaufstand Punkt = the point where the wheel touches the ground (I think...). Spur = the line along which the wheels travel.

EDIT: "nach" = "to", Links is left, Rechts is right, so "nach Links" is "to the left".

 

The bottom line: both the V11 and the 11 Sport where tested by a company in Bavaria that believed it knew what it was doing, and was recommended in at least one forum. The results show that both bikes were within less than 3mm of being absolutely straight.

 

Edited 59 minutes ago by audiomick