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[GuzziMoto]

12 minutes ago, footgoose said:

When I said 'Elon is a great guy', I was of course referring to his unbridled, unequaled engineering accomplishments, and not his recently declared political position. I think his Asperger's/autism experiences in early life gave/give him unique insight, and "freed" him from the typical societal road blocks to vision and the possibilities and limitations we normal folks encounter. I think his "perceptions" guide his politics, just like the rest of us.  He has of late, become a champion of free speech, and to that I am grateful. Free speech on this forum is however, limited to non political comment. So, in light of my often shaky attempt at becoming a better, more considerate person, and follower of reasonable rules, I can't respond to your thoughts on the mans ambitions, other than ... humanity will colonize Mars. And to those who second guess him.. good luck.

There is a great quote from a guy on social media. To sum it up, he said; When they said Elon was a genius making cars, well, I don't know cars so I took their word for it. Then they said Elon is a genius making rockets, well, I also don't know rockets so I took their word for it. Then they said Elon is a genius with software, well I do know software and I can say with no doubt everything he said about software is complete BS and he is an idiot.

I think many give him credit for what his companies do. But often his companies do things wrong, sometimes because he insists they do it a certain way. Like his Tesla's and their Full Self Driving using only cameras. That will always be inferior to a multi-sensor based FSD. And it likely explains the dangers of Tesla's in FSD mode and why there are so many deaths. Also, when you say the best selling car I assume you are discounting the vehicles that sold more then the Tesla Model Y because they are SUVs and pickups. 4th is respectable, but if you look at Tesla sales as a whole compared to other brands I don't think they are even in the top 10.

[Joe]

1 hour ago, GuzziMoto said:

There is a great quote from a guy on social media. To sum it up, he said; When they said Elon was a genius making cars, well, I don't know cars so I took their word for it. Then they said Elon is a genius making rockets, well, I also don't know rockets so I took their word for it. Then they said Elon is a genius with software, well I do know software and I can say with no doubt everything he said about software is complete BS and he is an idiot.

I think many give him credit for what his companies do. But often his companies do things wrong, sometimes because he insists they do it a certain way. Like his Tesla's and their Full Self Driving using only cameras. That will always be inferior to a multi-sensor based FSD. And it likely explains the dangers of Tesla's in FSD mode and why there are so many deaths. Also, when you say the best selling car I assume you are discounting the vehicles that sold more then the Tesla Model Y because they are SUVs and pickups. 4th is respectable, but if you look at Tesla sales as a whole compared to other brands I don't think they are even in the top 10.

 

 

[audiomick]

1 hour ago, footgoose said:

...Elon... his Asperger's/autism...

Oh, that's interesting. I wasn't aware of that. Explains quite a lot.

 

Incidentally, that is not just "experience in early life". It doesn't go away. The affected individual merely developes coping strategies. Or not.

What do I know about it? A woman I work with and my older brother are both on the autism scale.

[LowRyter]

2 hours ago, footgoose said:

When I said 'Elon is a great guy', I was of course referring to his unbridled, unequaled engineering accomplishments, and not his recently declared political position. I think his Asperger's/autism experiences in early life gave/give him unique insight, and "freed" him from the typical societal road blocks to vision and the possibilities and limitations we normal folks encounter. I think his "perceptions" guide his politics, just like the rest of us.  He has of late, become a champion of free speech, and to that I am grateful. Free speech on this forum is however, limited to non political comment. So, in light of my often shaky attempt at becoming a better, more considerate person, and follower of reasonable rules, I can't respond to your thoughts on the mans ambitions, other than ... humanity will colonize Mars. And to those who second guess him.. good luck.

I think the guy is addled.  Not just high on his own supply but perhaps too much ketamine as well.  So far as free speech, without fact checks, the only things censored are facts themselves.   I think it's a miss when Nazis are "in" and NPR is "out".

Writing about Nazis, an interesting story about his obsession with Mars.  Werner von Braun wrote a Sci Fi novel in the early '50's about colonization of Mars (wiki):

After establishing verbal communication, the humans learn about the Martians' social structure and their form of government, which is run by ten men under the leadership of "the Elon".

I kid you not.  This is the richest and most powerful man in the world (and the smartest too).  Well, good luck with that.

[LowRyter]

2 hours ago, fotoguzzi said:

I LOVE THAT! They got Musk’s face just right, all white.

i was in Tulsa to visit the Woody Guthrie and the Bob Dylan centers.. it was good but the highlight was down the road in OK city.. the American Banjo Museum.. everyone should go there! They have about 300 Banjos on display including those owned by Earl and Steve Martin.

i had free supercharging and didn’t have to stop at any gas stations.

 

I live in OKC, haven't been to the Banjo Museum, several times too Woody's and Bob's up in T-town. 

[guzzigary]

1 hour ago, LowRyter said:

So far as free speech, without fact checks, the only things censored are facts themselves.   I think it's a miss when Nazis are "in" and NPR is "out".

 

[LowRyter]

2 hours ago, audiomick said:

Oh, that's interesting. I wasn't aware of that. Explains quite a lot.

 

Incidentally, that is not just "experience in early life". It doesn't go away. The affected individual merely developes coping strategies. Or not.

What do I know about it? A woman I work with and my older brother are both on the autism scale.

None of us are quite right.  There's no normal person and we all have likes and dislikes, obsessions and peccadillos.  We all suffer from pressures and stresses.  I suppose most of us see a problem when the corrupt harm innocents and obstruct the quest for truth.  

Edited 31 minutes ago by LowRyter

[audiomick]

4 minutes ago, LowRyter said:

.  I suppose most of us see a problem when the corrupt harm innocents and obstruct the quest for truth.  

Yes. At least I hope so.