Starting issue

[voycie]

Not sure if this is a common issue, but ive noticed a few occassions where I go to start my '03 lemans and i just hear the click of the starter solenoid but starter motor doesnt turn... almost like the battery is flat, however, a few more presses and it does fire up (battery is fully charged). Perhaps the issue is a connection at the starter motor... since the solenoid is working that would imply the problem is further down the line. I was thinking of cleaning up the starter motor contacts.

 

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[Steve S]

Try removing the starter and give it a good clean up first

[Cdogger]

Yeah I agree with Steve. Pull the starter and clean the solenoid so there is no grease on it, Put a couple drops of 3 in 1 oil on the 2 surfaces and reassemble. I had a similar issue with my bike and that fixed it.

[Kiwi_Roy]

Are you sure it's the starter solenoid, not just the relay as in Startus Interuptus?

 

 

You can always check the starter with a hot wire the solenoid from the solenoid trigger terminal to battery positive bypassing the Ignition switch and other wiring. Bike in neutral of course!

[Chuck]

^^^ beat me to it. Probably Startus Interuptus. If the starter is stuck, it will blow a fuse.

[voycie]

Good suggestions thanks chaps, ill pull the starter and go from there...

 

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[Scud]

You might check (or upgrade) your relays first. I solved a problem with the exact same symptoms simply by upgrading to Omron relays.

[docc]

http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19755&p=216605

[voycie]

Hmm the relay issue sounds likely. Anyone know of a UK source for them?

 

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[Kiwi_Roy]

The relays are a standard format used by many autos. Clean your ignition switch if you haven't done that in 5 years, lube with Vaseline

 

 

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[Kiwi_Roy]

On the later VII the solenoid current passes through the switch that severely restricts the solenoid's ability to draw the starter into mesh.

I did a test on an EV with a clean switch bypassing the switch halved the time to engage

 

 

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[docc]

God point (Kiwi_Roy always makes good points ) that the start wiring changed on the V11 series.

 

voicie, how about going to your profile and filling in your year/ model V11 and a location?

[Scud]

You might check (or upgrade) your relays first. I solved a problem with the exact same symptoms simply by upgrading to Omron relays.

 

 

God point (Kiwi_Roy always makes good points ) that the start wiring changed on the V11 series.

 

voicie, how about going to your profile and filling in your year/ model V11 and a location?

 

The problem I experienced and solved was on a 2003 LeMans. Same as voicie's bike (per opening post). I think the real culprit may have been a loose-fitting relay base. I squeezed the pins on the relay to compensate. Flawless starts since then.

[swooshdave]

We need a better "new owner and forum member's checklist" otherwise known as "what you will get yelled at first about".

 

1. F'n Relays - docc

2. Winkie light - Kiwi_Roy

3. Why didn't you listen to the first two guys - Scud

 

Something like that.

[docc]

Seems the first thing K'Roy would say is something about scraping your battery terminals shiny and Vaseline®.