gthyni Posted February 5, 2004 Posted February 5, 2004 I remember that someone on the forum cut a stock crossover open and examined the inside. I have search that post for 1/2 hour with no success.... Give me a pointer? Who did it? Where is that post?
Admin Jaap Posted February 5, 2004 Posted February 5, 2004 I couldn't find that thread either - too many threads about x-overs - but I found the picture!
gthyni Posted February 5, 2004 Author Posted February 5, 2004 Great pics, some mesh and bolts then..... Now I just need a welding station....
biesel Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 Thread "Anyone out there that can explain how the stock crossover works? I found one on E-bay for $13.00 so I thought I'd modify it for use on my 02 Lemans. When I cut it open you see a thin layer of steel wool type material, then a screen, then you come to the two post, another screen on the bottom with the packing behind it. I expected to see some type of baffle in there but there is none! It appears it's straight flow through except for the two post. The screens and packing are on the top & bottom and I don't see how the exhaust would be forced to flow through this area. I thought I read that this would give the bike a little more sound (but I don't see how removing the screen. packing, or post could have much effect now that I can see the insides of this thing). How's this thing work??? Could the screen and packing on the top & bottom of collector just be there to keep the heat down? Any thought on this are appreciated...I've attached a picture of the inside of the crossover. Thanks, Steve Thoerner" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I went ahead and gutted the inside of the box and welded a new stainless plate back in on the top and bottom of the collector. To see what kind of sound difference I'd get I made some measurements with a sound meter. All measurements were with the bikes at 1500RPM standing about 5 feet behind the bike or 5 feet to the side of the motor. Stock Guzzi V11 Lemans: 97dB from the rear 92dB from the side with modified crossover 99dB at the rear 96dB from the side both measured before the bike warmed up. After a ride with the modified crossover hot I measured 95dB from the rear and 92 from the side...these bikes must quiet down as the motor gets hotter. To give a refrence point I measured my BMW R1150RT: 89dB from the rear and 89dB on the side (way quiet). My brothers H-D Road King loud aftermarket pipes but some baffling 111dB from the rear 107dB from the side at 1500RPM's. When he cranked to 2000RPM's it hit about 120dB. I advised him to get some earplugs!!! Really no difference in the performance so all in all I'm not sure this modification is worth the effort...I'll probably put my stock crossover back on. I wanted to get a little more sound from the bike but not give myself headaches on long rides. This modification isn't noticable without the sound measuring instrument. If anyone has some spare Lemans pipes they want to let me have for a reasonable price I'll do the mods and post the measurements on them. Glad I only invested a few bucks on the used crossover.... Steve Thoerner"
gthyni Posted February 6, 2004 Author Posted February 6, 2004 Thanks Biesel, I must have read 10+ crossover threads but didn't find the right one. Great info. I hope to find a small welding station today so I can start my modifications. I'll keep you posted on the progress.
Guest friz Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 why replace stock cross-over with after market waste of $$$$ for noise I took my stock mufflers off of my scura cut them apart inserted glasspacks what anice sound.
belfastguzzi Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 why replace stock cross-over with after market waste of $$$$ for noise I took my stock mufflers off of my scura cut them apart inserted glasspacks what anice sound. Can you explain a bit more? What did the glass packs consist of? Did you cut down the seams and weld together again? Is there much weight difference? Ta
emry Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 Next week I'll try and post somempic of the muffler i'm creating. Fit is similar to the G&B but uses dual outlets. So far it has been pretty loud though.
Janusz Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 I don't have any doubt that Stucci x-over eliminates a dreadful 4,000 RPM dip. All you need to do is swap them and just go for a ride.
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