Kiwi_Roy Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 I am getting ready for a trip and want to purchase a spare crank sensor, I figure its the one part of the ignition you cannot jury rig. Can someone tell me the Automotive equivalent like which make and model uses it? For anyone who has changed the sensor, how did you connect it to the ECU, according to the schematics it seems to be wired directly to the ECU connector. http://www.thisoldtractor.com/guzzi007/schematics/1999_V11_sport.gif item (53) Or is the plug 1,2,3 hidden somewhere ib the loom?
Kiwi_Roy Posted August 1, 2017 Author Posted August 1, 2017 Never mind, I googled SEN813 and found it Fiat, Lancia, Alffa Romeo I think Ducati use it also Update - the parts guy showed me a picture it had just one screw hole hard to seal the oil in I think - Roy Copied from another forum http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CRANKSHAFT-SENSOR-ALFA-ROMEO-145-146-1-4-FIAT-Tempra-Tipo-1-8-LANCIA-/251703577340? This is the exact same part mine arrived quickly direct fit £24.96 as opposed to over £130 from Guzzi I had to really look hard for it I have told the seller and he is going to add the Bike OR SEN-813 to make it easier to find this sensor is fitted to a whole load of Guzzis V11 series and all these Fits Moto Guzzi Quota 1100, V11 Sport ALL, 1100 Sport IE, 1100 Sport Corsa, Bellagio, Breva ALL, Bellagio, Cali EV, Cali Jackal, Cali Stone, Cali Special, Cali Vintage, Centauro, Daytona RS, Griso ALL, MGS-01, 1200 Sport ALL, Norge ALL, Stelvio, V7 Classic, V7 Cafe, V7 Racer, V7 Stone, V7 Special, Nevada 750 (2004-2013) Phase Sensor I think I will take a trip to the local auto wrecker, I might be able to find the mating 3 pin connector as well. 1
knumbnutz Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 I just bought one via ebay from Latvia that was cheaper by half than buying a guzzi one in Australia. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Scud Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Nice work gentlemen. Feel free to make an entry in the encyclopedia of compatible parts: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=19514&hl=encyclopedia BTW, I believe these sense the position of the cam, not the crank. 1
Kiwi_Roy Posted August 2, 2017 Author Posted August 2, 2017 Spent a fruitless afternoon checking out the dealers The Auto wrecker would only sell me a complete engine The Fiat dealer wanted the Vin number Also checked a couple of after market parts shops The Ducati guy had a picture but their sensor was held by just one screw None of the above could cross reference the Magneti Marelli part No SEN-813 Still, I had a good ride on the old Eldo, you don't get that shopping on-line 1
swooshdave Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Cross Interchange Parts Factory Number MEAT & DORIA 87074 HOFFER 7517074 FAE 79015 SIDAT 83.125 FISPA 83.125 ALFA ROMEO 60603937 http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/8484462/magnetimarelli-sen813.html http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15897&p=171933
Kiwi_Roy Posted August 2, 2017 Author Posted August 2, 2017 Yes I saw the listing on Yoyo parts, I'm not convinced they actually have one though I ended up ordering one from Boonstra Parts in Holland Off an MV Augusta Brutale 750, the Guzzi has to be happy about that. 1
czakky Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Do we have this listed in the "compatible parts" thread? We should.
Kiwi_Roy Posted August 3, 2017 Author Posted August 3, 2017 Cross Interchange Parts Factory Number MEAT & DORIA 87074 HOFFER 7517074 FAE 79015 SIDAT 83.125 FISPA 83.125 Auto Part ALFA ROMEO 60603937 FIAT ??????? Czakky - Lets get the Fiat part No in there as well before putting it in the cross reference There has to be more fiat dealerships than Alfa Romeo http://www.yoyopart.com/oem/8484462/magnetimarelli-sen813.html If you scroll down on that page it shows a bunch of Sku numbers related to different cars, I will try those over the weekend. Scroll even further it lists the vehicles it was used on
Kiwi_Roy Posted August 3, 2017 Author Posted August 3, 2017 I can't post links from here but I stumbled across an interesting post from Bill D http://archive.guzzitech.com/PhaseSensFail-Bill_D.html In particular paragraph 4 This gives a good diagnosis of the sensor failure, he noticed the Tach dropped off and backfiring even though the motor was still spinning, I thought that was brilliant. I'm sure Bill won't mind me linking to it here. 2
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