Gmc28 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 reviving an old thread while perusing random stuff during lunch…. anyone know why Stein Dinse and MGcycle charge either about $600 or $400 (respectively) for a PF3C, while CA cycle works and other sources have them for around $80? one them use diamonds and kryptonite? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomchri Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Because thet can . Cheers Tom. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzler Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Ha ha Even down here I got a replacement one years ago for about a $100..... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 3 hours ago, Gmc28 said: reviving an old thread while perusing random stuff during lunch…. anyone know why Stein Dinse and MGcycle charge either about $600 or $400 (respectively) for a PF3C, while CA cycle works and other sources have them for around $80? one them use diamonds and kryptonite? Probably because SD originally sold genuine OEM TPS's sourced from Guzzi or the OEM as opposed to CA probably sourcing them from China. Now that new OEM sensors are pretty much unobtainium they also probably source from China direct but without passing on the reduced retail price. I don't think there's any issue with Chinese made stuff in general but I still think they grade their components. The best go to the big customers that buy in significant quantities and may even have their own form of quality control or testing and the lesser quality is sold via ebay and such. Just my theory from experience. CA Cycleworks are renowned for selling quality stuff and I think from memory they actually yest their TPS's before selling them. Phil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom in Virginia Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Currently about $84 US https://ca-cycleworks.com/pf3c.html Edited July 16 by Tom in Virginia add price 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 You did read the last line (in red) that stated Note Not for other Moto Guzzi models 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Tom in Virginia said: Currently about $84 US https://ca-cycleworks.com/pf3c.html 1 hour ago, gstallons said: You did read the last line (in red) that stated Note Not for other Moto Guzzi models I've run a couple Ca CycleWorks TPS on my Sport. As long as the TPS has the adjustable mounting slots, it fits our V11s. They would be more correct to say, "Fits all V11 Moto Guzzi, only." After all, not all V11 "EV-type" are California. There are Jackals and Stone and Titanium and on and on . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Thanx for the clarification . I couldn't see that it would matter , but.... Edited July 16 by gstallons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 12 minutes ago, gstallons said: Thanx for the clarification . I couldn't see that it would matter , but.... CARC Guzzi use a fixed TPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Hmmm . They use the lowest # as zero or base throttle angle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, gstallons said: Hmmm . They use the lowest # as zero or base throttle angle ? The CARC models index the throttle plate using The Sacred Screw (identical to the V11 "idle screw") and cause the ECU to "learn" whatever the TPS output is to index to the mapping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJPR01 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Thankfully the CARC bikes do not need to have the TPS fiddled with manually...all done electronically via Guzzidiag. SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier than the V11's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 55 minutes ago, PJPR01 said: Thankfully the CARC bikes do not need to have the TPS fiddled with manually...all done electronically via Guzzidiag. SOOOOOOOOOOOO much easier than the V11's... Just know not to muck with The Sacred Screw! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstallons Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 I installed some TPS sensors on two Dodge vehicles in the last two weeks and my scanner had a "relearn" on the TPS after I installed them . Bolt it up and relearn and it was finished . You didn't have to adjust anything . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiomick Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Yeah, the 750 Breva has a "relearn" function too. The same as the CARC models, I imagine. Screw(s) on the throttle bodies that you shouldn't touch under any circumstances, and a function in the ECU that tells it "the TPS is closed now, that is your base value". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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