mznyc Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 Bike is running sweet,I do my own tuning and with MG Ti cans been very happy with her for years,except,on very small throttle openings,rolling off and on for turns,like a light switch sometimes.Have never re-set the TPS with the software,only with a meter and have had a Mistral mid pipe I've been wanting to install for a while so when season ends for me in 4-6 weeks think I'm gonna take a stab at GuzziDiag and TPS re-set,A/F and a FI balance.Just feels like the TPS doesn't know where 0 is...Anybody else experience this?
fotoguzzi Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 might need a small adjustment to the "trim", you need software to do that.
mznyc Posted October 20, 2017 Author Posted October 20, 2017 might need a small adjustment to the "trim", you need software to do that. I believe that is the Air-Fuel mixture,which I would also do with the software....
coreytrevor Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 On my bike, where the throttle cable hooks to the throttle tube(at the handlebar) there are 2 positions for the cable, smaller or larger diameter pulley. Mine was in the larger, quick turn position. I tried the small diameter position and it did help control the transition coming off closed throttle. Then I realized I liked the quicker turn throttle so I put it back.
coreytrevor Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 And you aren't supposed to use Guzzidiag to set the TPS. You"re doing it the right way if you are using a digital voltmeter. I agree that the trim setting is really important at idle and at small throttle openings. If the trim setting is off the fueling can be lean right off idle, and throttle control will imprecise and annoying. 1
mznyc Posted October 20, 2017 Author Posted October 20, 2017 On my bike, where the throttle cable hooks to the throttle tube(at the handlebar) there are 2 positions for the cable, smaller or larger diameter pulley. Mine was in the larger, quick turn position. I tried the small diameter position and it did help control the transition coming off closed throttle. Then I realized I liked the quicker turn throttle so I put it back. That's pretty cool,never noticed that,I'll check it out....But sure the TPS/Co reset will do wonders for her,shame as she is humming everywhere else in the rev range...
coreytrevor Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Then you will like that the CO setting won't have much affect above closed throttle and small throttle openings. The rest of the time it should run like it runs now.
docc Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 I ran my Sport for too many years with the CO Fuel Trim set at minus 27. Andy York corrected it for me. One of the three or four greatest things ever for my V11. So, if your CO is off *a little*, correcting it will likely help the idle. If it's off *a lot* it can help everything about the fueling. YMMV
coreytrevor Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Can you elaborate? I read somewhere on the forum that the CO trim has less and less effect as the throttle is opened. I don't to be a misinformation spreader!
Chuck Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 To make a long story short.. when you said Then you will like that the CO setting won't have much affect above closed throttle and small throttle openings. The rest of the time it should run like it runs now. I found when the Mighty Scura was set -40 from where it should be, not only was it doing a lot of lean stumbling at small throttle openings, I was getting 50+ mpg. (!) Normally, it gets high 30s.
coreytrevor Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Understood, and not trying to be argumentative, but on a big displacement bike, at cruise speeds, the throttle will usually be barely open. Maybe 10 to 20 percent at most. That is usually largely what determines fuel mileage in my experience. A good way to see the real effects of the trim setting would be to check it with an air/fuel datalogger. I don't have mine yet, and I just got my non-crossover headers, so now with no air leaks to mess with the O2 sensor, I can proceed with the tuning. I'll admit I will probably be too lazy to ever get around to checking exactly what the trim setting does. Maybe someone already has. Meinolf?
Chuck Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 I *think* I remember reading somewhere that the trim setting affected fuel and ignition across the board.. but I could be dreaming.
docc Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Here is one Meinolf post on the CO fuel trim: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18652&p=199545 1
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