Joe Caruso timing gears and oil pumps.

[Lucky Phil]

I've mentioned before Joe is still doing his timing gears but he is also going to produce replacement oil pumps as well Ther have been some pumps available for a while and while some were excellent some were suspect quality wise. A mate of mine building a short stroke Guzzi race engine with roller rear mains and roller supported cams with a set of Joes gears in it showed me one of these pumps and 1 out of the 4 mount holes doesnt line up. HMB has also suspended selling a version due to quality problems.

Joes pumps will obviously be of high quality but will also use the Ducati type design for the secondary gear where the gear will run on a steel pin pressed into the pump housing rather than the inferior Guzzi version where the secondary gear and its integeral shaft run in the pump housing.

Joe is also making some very nice Dayton/Centauro alloy front alternator covers. 

Just for the record I have no financial interest here just an interest in supporting a quality engineer that makes great stuff for Guzzi's and making you guys aware.

Drop him a line if you need anything, he's always helpful.

 

joe.caruso@ntworld.com

 

Ciao

[docc]

No V11 Alternator covers? (Mine is tatty, again)

[Lucky Phil]

No V11 Alternator covers? (Mine is tatty, again)

No docc didnt mention the V11 cover. Are they still available new? The original Daytona/Centauro covers were plastic and tended to crack at the mount points I'm told.

 

Ciao

[pete roper]

Note that these are NOT examples of Joe's gears. These are just a few of the sort of damage I've seen far too often with any and all of the 'Ergal' or aluminium/steel composite sets. Usually at comparatively low mileages.

 

 

 

 

Five sets removed by Joe I believe!

 

 

 

 

 

One of the composite sets, (Steel crank gear.). There were sent to me but I tried a set in my engine with similar wear problems. I checked mine at 1,500 km and found severe damage but my oil pump gear hadn't actually ceased to exist!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just a small sample. I'd rather stick my @#$$#! in a blender than have them in my engine!

 

Pete

[Chuck]

Nice..

[al_roethlisberger]

I know there is not practical benefit in a street bike, but something about timing gears versus a belt is mechanically very cool to me 

 

The price is high though for the appropriate steel gears, and since I don't have a lot of "spare" money for the "impractical but cool" things, it's not likely I'll ever put them in.

 

What's the story with his oil pumps for the V11 though?  I don't know anything about the justification.

[Kiwi_Roy]

I remember my Vincent Comet had aluminium gears that had worn quite sharp but the cams and followers were also toast

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Chuck]

I know there is not practical benefit in a street bike, but something about timing gears versus a belt is mechanically very cool to me 

 

The price is high though for the appropriate steel gears, and since I don't have a lot of "spare" money for the "impractical but cool" things, it's not likely I'll ever put them in.

 

What's the story with his oil pumps for the V11 though?  I don't know anything about the justification.

I've never seen one, but I *assume* it's a billet pump with bearing.

The factory pump runs unbushed in the case. Depending on your luck of the draw.. it will be a good fit, and run for a long time. If it is just a *little* loose, it will let the pump gear wobble. Get the picture? Wobbling aluminum gears? At any rate, it will wear, causing the same effect. At the least, the factory pump needs to be bushed sooner or later. "Feeling lucky, punk?" 

[pete roper]

Chuck, I'm pretty certain the V11 pump has bearings. It was the early hi-cams that had the bearingless pumps. The other problem with them was the gears used some absurd toothform that nobody else had used since prior to the unification of Italy!

[Lucky Phil]

I know there is not practical benefit in a street bike, but something about timing gears versus a belt is mechanically very cool to me 

 

The price is high though for the appropriate steel gears, and since I don't have a lot of "spare" money for the "impractical but cool" things, it's not likely I'll ever put them in.

 

What's the story with his oil pumps for the V11 though?  I don't know anything about the justification.

As the supply of original pumps dries up the gap has been filled with aftermarket pumps some are fine and others of poor quality.

I have a German made DAS pump which is very nice quality but availability is poor.

Joes pumps will use the Ducati design for the secondary gear mentioned previously which is superior as well as a better drive gear bushin/bearing and higher quality with hopefully better availability.

 

Ciao  

[Lucky Phil]

Note that these are NOT examples of Joe's gears. These are just a few of the sort of damage I've seen far too often with any and all of the 'Ergal' or aluminium/steel composite sets. Usually at comparatively low mileages.

 

 

 

 

Five sets removed by Joe I believe!

 

 

 

 

 

One of the composite sets, (Steel crank gear.). There were sent to me but I tried a set in my engine with similar wear problems. I checked mine at 1,500 km and found severe damage but my oil pump gear hadn't actually ceased to exist!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just a small sample. I'd rather stick my @#$$#! in a blender than have them in my engine!

 

Pete

Amazing to think Pete that Guzzi used alloy oil pump and cam drive gears as standard fitment to the Daytona and Centauro engines. I have a couple of sets that I dont particularly want to re use hence the Joe steel gear set for this engine as well.

 

Ciao