al_roethlisberger Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 I didn't see this via a quick search, nor in the FAQ section: But something I've found very useful for other vehicle DIY maintenance is a simple consolidated list of bolt torque values. Generally, although not always, these torque values can be found in various tables and buried as part of some loosely related assembly instructions within service manuals. But that can be frustrating to search for when performing a repair, or just trying to prep for some assembly work. And sometimes no values are provided by the factory for some fasteners at all. So it might be nice to start a thread of fastener torque values as owners research and find them, and perhaps over time make it a FAQ. For example, I'll have to replace my front engine mount sub-frame at some point due to rust, and I'd like to know what the frame and engine mounting bolt torque values are. 1
docc Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 See Section B-4, page B-12, of the Workshop Manual. Most fasteners on the V11 are torque spec'd by their size and not location/application. 2
raz Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 The WHB's do have a list on some page but it's incomplete - many settings are not included but scattered around at specific sections (which is good too but they should be in the list as well ) I collected all I could find when I had the 1100 Sport (all or nearly all will apply to V11 as well) plus some generics, see this page: https://www.abc.se/~rasmus/1100Sport-torque.html 4
al_roethlisberger Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 The WHB's do have a list on some page but it's incomplete - many settings are not included but scattered around at specific sections (which is good too but they should be in the list as well ) I collected all I could find when I had the 1100 Sport (all or nearly all will apply to V11 as well) plus some generics, see this page: https://www.abc.se/~rasmus/1100Sport-torque.html That is excellent, and exactly what I was looking to collect! Would you mind cut/pasting that list to this thread also in case something happens to your location one day, and we can have that information here for easy reference?
al_roethlisberger Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 1100 Sport torque Specs This is information raz collected from various places. Usual disclaimers applies. Ranges have been deduced to some sensible mid value and all are converted to Nm. 1100 Sport i workshop manual Nm Notes Nut and stud for cylinder head tie rods (M10x1.5) 40 Bolt, rocker pin securing 7 Spark plugs 25 Hollow screws (banjo bolt?) delivering oil to heads (M8x1.25) 16 (I'd rather use 10-12 for the banjo bolt) Nut, camshaft sprocket 147 Nut, oil pump sprocket (M8x1) 22 (not in Guzzi manual) Screw, intake pipe 20 Connecting rod cap securing screws (M10x1) 62 Screws securing flywheel to engine shaft (M8x1.25) 40 Loctite medium, new screws Screws securing flywheel crown (M6x1) 16 Nut locking alternator (M16x1.5) 78 Nut locking secondary shaft (layshaft) 167 Cap for topping up oil in gearbox and transmission 29 Safety nut for secondary shaft 74 Nut locking bearing on bevel pinion 186 Screws securing crown to drilled pin 40 Screw to fix stand support plate 71 Front wheel spindle 93 Fork pinch bolts are M8x1 22 Screw for rear wheel spindle (case side) 118 Screws for front and rear brake discs (M8x1.25) 28 Loctite 270 Triple clamps, 7 screws 19 Fork drain screw 23 new copper bushing Large bevel gear screws x 8 40 Loctite 601, new screws Reaction rod back 30 Reaction rod front 51 Bevel gear tripod back 39 Loctite 601 Bevel gear tripod front 28 Loctite 601 UJ fastening to rear drive 39 Side plate, rod beneath swinging arm 49 Side plate lowest/frame to gearbox 78 Engine to subframe/ subframe to frame 78 Oil breather lines/ oil cooler (M16 banjo bolts) 30 (not in Guzzi manual) Standard values Nm Guzzi, use when not listed above M4 3 M5 x 0.8 6 M6 x 1 10 Oil pan, rocker covers and other casing M8 x 1.25 27 M10 x 1.25 47 M12 80 (not in Guzzi manual) V1000G5 shop manual Nm / guzzitech.com Oil level and drain plugs, gearbox and rear drive box 25 Brake caliper fixing bolts, M10x1.5mm 36 Griso 1100 workshop manual Nm Oil filter 19 Steering head plug M29x1 100 Standard values: Aluminium (lubed) Nm / dodgeram.org M6 7 M7 11 M8 18 M10 30 M12 55 M14 90 M16 140 Standard values: Grade 8.8 Iron (lubed) Nm M6 9 M7 14 M8 23 M10 45 M12 80 M14 125 M16 195 Standard values: Grade 10.9 Iron (lubed) Nm M6 13 M7 18 M8 33 M10 65 M12 115 M14 180 M16 280 Standard values: Grade 12.9 Iron (lubed) Nm M6 14 M7 23 M8 40 M10 70 M12 125 M14 195 M16 290 Source: member since 2007: raz "Bork, bork, bork!" 5
MartyNZ Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 See Section B-4, page B-12, of the Workshop Manual. Most fasteners on the V11 are torque spec'd by their size and not location/application. A screenshot of that page: 3
raz Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 I'm notorious for Excel-masturbating when weather or light isn't suitable for riding, it's a good thing others get some use of it 2
al_roethlisberger Posted January 2, 2019 Author Posted January 2, 2019 Thanks everyone! Here's my thought, as others come across new values specific to a component or find a correction we update the thread and ultimately the master list.
docc Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 Thanks everyone! Here's my thought, as others come across new values specific to a component or find a correction we update the thread and ultimately the master list. This begs the question where to put this information. FAQ threads are locked. So, a page could be put there, but cannot be amended or added to by the membership. We could leave it here and hope a search will bring it up, but the search function really works best with the: Advanced Search function and this tutorial. Recently, the several pinned threads in Technical Topics were moved to the "How to . . ." subforum. While discussion remains open, the "Answered" function was lost. I intend to talk with Jaap about restoring it as it makes "getting to the bottom of things" more approachable.
al_roethlisberger Posted January 4, 2019 Author Posted January 4, 2019 Since I think we want others to be able to update the list, I vote for putting the thread in the "How to" section. 1
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