Bill Hagan Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 John Wells recently sold his early 2007 Norge (sister VIN to mine) to friend, Ray. We are all at western N.Y. rally in Westfield, N.Y. On short ride this a.m., Ray’s Norge -- 11K miles; well maintained --- “died” underway. Checked all fuses and relays. All appear good. Ruled out (preliminarily, at least) sidestand interlock. Starter cranks; no start. John — who is on the scene and whom I cc — and others there believe related to internal fuel pump as I understand they can see fuel “swirling,” which they recall as filter failure? Given unavailability of OEM, might any of you know of clone that would work? Other ideas/suggestions? Bill 404.8ZERO8.8486
antmanbee Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 Check for spark. You can get a bit of swirling around because the pressure regulator is inside the tank. Are the plugs dry? If the plugs are dry and no spark, it could be the timing phase sensor.
pete roper Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 Sounds like hose blown off filter Bill. See my Ghetto post.
Bill Hagan Posted June 9, 2019 Author Posted June 9, 2019 Thanks to all. Seems hose was OK. Tho perhaps removing the clamps on the the OEM filter MAY have done some damage. Be that as it may, the culprit this time was the filter itself. The plastic half of the OEM was so swollen -- presumably from cursed ethanol -- that it split at the seam with its metal mate. Guzzisteve called in the NAPA part #[GOLD 3032] and all was well. I'll post some pix of this and more when I get back home on Monday. Bill 1
footgoose Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Always a good feeling when the gremlins are defeated, even vicariously. 1
Bill Hagan Posted June 11, 2019 Author Posted June 11, 2019 As I posted this Paul Harvey on ADVRider, I should repeat it here: I never miss a chance to knock or ping (pun intended; sorry) ethanol, but fairness requires me to back away from my view that ethanol is the sole culprit in the swelling plastic fuel filters. I have now had two Guzzisti -- in England and Oz -- report that they have had the same thing happen to theirs without ethanol playing any role whatever. Both questioned Mahle (the filter maker) and were told that "it was designed for use with diesel fuel and on no account should it be immersed on petrol/gasoline." If so, mighty hard to figure out why Guzzi continues to use the things. Bill P.S. I still detest ethanol; corn is for bourbon.
As I posted this Paul Harvey on ADVRider, I should repeat it here: I never miss a chance to knock or ping (pun intended; sorry) ethanol, but fairness requires me to back away from my view that ethanol is the sole culprit in the swelling plastic fuel filters. I have now had two Guzzisti -- in England and Oz -- report that they have had the same thing happen to theirs without ethanol playing any role whatever. Both questioned Mahle (the filter maker) and were told that "it was designed for use with diesel fuel and on no account should it be immersed on petrol/gasoline." If so, mighty hard to figure out why Guzzi continues to use the things. Bill P.S. I still detest ethanol; corn is for bourbon.
swooshdave Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bill Hagan said: If so, mighty hard to figure out why Guzzi continues to use the things. Oh, we know why. 1 1
biesel Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 This is the Mahle filter you should use: The Guzzi code number is 01106090 e.g. https://www.stein-dinse.biz/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=4978 1 1
Bill Hagan Posted June 13, 2019 Author Posted June 13, 2019 ^^^^^^^ Many thanks. It is easier here to get this at NAPA parts stores or on Amazon.: https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FIL3032 Bill
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