Show us your tools

[gstallons]

Well.......... it depends on how old you are 

[Chuck]

Who are you calling old, you young whippersnapper? All my tools and measuring instruments are 'Merican. None of that sissy metric stuff. My LeBlonde lathe won't even cut those threads.

[gstallons]

We don't have that choice. I don't like it any more than you .  I prefer 1/4-20 over 6mm-1.0 but I don't have the power to decide . FWIW , I think Canada still has USS and SAE fasteners and everything is built in inch sizes . I went to a Thomas brand equipment school and everything was standard except the (Kubota) powereplant . 

[LowRyter]

1 hour ago, Chuck said:

Who are you calling old, you young whippersnapper? All my tools and measuring instruments are 'Merican. None of that sissy metric stuff. My LeBlonde lathe won't even cut those threads.

You remind me of an aircraft mechanic.  

[gstallons]

Naming professions : James Mariner . He is the last of my counsel . He is 90 yrs old and I am not sure he finished High School . This man can explain why one carb is jetted differently than the other on a M/G bike , he can explain steering geometry , anything having to do w/motorcycles . He has owned all brands . His brand of choice : Moto Guzzi . He said one time , every die hard Guzzi owner is some type of craftsman .  The owners are an authority on some kind of subject and can/do apply it to their bike. 

They are not riding a German bike where the owner has his grips installed at his local dealership , has someone else change the oil , etc.

There are better motorcycles but Moto Guzzi is bike of choice for a professional . 

Edited Monday at 03:08 PM by gstallons

[Lucky Phil]

9 hours ago, gstallons said:

Did you buy the metric or standard model ? 

I remember seeing a 3-D printer set-up and ancillary products YEARS ago at a trade show in Louisville and did not appreciate what I was looking at . This stuff was so futuristic it just looked "neat" .  I wish I could go back in time and approach that display again . I would look at it differently

The logical version. Metric

Phil

[Gmc28]

2 hours ago, Lucky Phil said:

The logical version. Metric

Phil

That. 

From Nate Bargatze playing George Washington on SnL last year:

“I dream that one day our proud nation will measure weights in pounds, and that 2,000 pounds shall be called a ‘ton,’” Washington said. When a soldier played by Bowen Yang asked, “And what will 1,000 pounds be called, sir?,” Bargatze deadpanned, “Nothing.” Washington then waxes poetic about various bizarre American measurements, such as “rulers with two sets of numbers: inches on one side, centimeters on the other,” that “won’t line up and never will”.

(except of course for 13mm.... 1/2"!)

[docc]

Metric isn't perfect for everything.

For instance, this just doesn't play:

"There's something leakin'

I'm two liters low."

 

[Lucky Phil]

2 hours ago, Gmc28 said:

That. 

From Nate Bargatze playing George Washington on SnL last year:

“I dream that one day our proud nation will measure weights in pounds, and that 2,000 pounds shall be called a ‘ton,’” Washington said. When a soldier played by Bowen Yang asked, “And what will 1,000 pounds be called, sir?,” Bargatze deadpanned, “Nothing.” Washington then waxes poetic about various bizarre American measurements, such as “rulers with two sets of numbers: inches on one side, centimeters on the other,” that “won’t line up and never will”.

(except of course for 13mm.... 1/2"!)

Well it's 12.7 actually. I'm fully conversant in both and can do the smaller calculations in my head. By instinct I measure something in fractions of a mm say .24 and immediately say to myself "oh yea that's 9.6 thou. Don't know why, no idea  but my equipment in the last 20 years has been metric. I'll stop it one day I guess. Metric still makes more sense to me.   

Phil

[MartyNZ]

20 hours ago, audiomick said:

I always thought metric is standard.

Well, yes it is for most countries. Even the British who invented pounds, feet, hogsheads, barleycorns and leagues have largely abandoned the Imperial units and adopted metric. 

I was in a Boeing class on aircraft structures, and I asked the instructor if Boeing would ever adopt the metric system like Airbus, ATR, Embraer, Comac, Fokker, Antonov did. He said "the US system will gradually be adopted by the rest of the world". He seemed dismayed when I told him that there is only 3 countries that have not adopted metric. Or is it 2 now?

[Pressureangle]

While I appreciate the metric system for it's simplicity, I laugh out loud over the surrounding environment.
For instance, American engineers produced the only machinery I've ever seen with 16 and 18mm fastener heads. I think it's simply a middle finger to metric. Having grown up with SAE, I'm perfectly comfortable with it, and for many common fasteners I'll grab whatever wrench comes to hand if it fits- 11mm to 7/16", 14 to 9/16", 17 to 11/16" etc. 
It's your eye that matters, if you can see the size tool you need by looking at the fastener, you're good to go.

Given the use of the word 'spanner' I'm going to suggest the passenger side are Whitworth.

Edited yesterday at 01:15 PM by Pressureangle
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[Gmc28]

8 hours ago, MartyNZ said:

Well, yes it is for most countries. Even the British who invented pounds, feet, hogsheads, barleycorns and leagues have largely abandoned the Imperial units and adopted metric. 

I was in a Boeing class on aircraft structures, and I asked the instructor if Boeing would ever adopt the metric system like Airbus, ATR, Embraer, Comac, Fokker, Antonov did. He said "the US system will gradually be adopted by the rest of the world". He seemed dismayed when I told him that there is only 3 countries that have not adopted metric. Or is it 2 now?

that's hilarious, and certainly reminiscent of way back when that's the way things were going in the US.  when was that class, out of curiosity?

clearly its all just what we're used to.  i'm all-in on metric, and get annoyed when i have to reach into the "stupid" side of my alternate toolbox to dig out SAE, and gallons/liters conversion is easy because of lots of necessary practice when flying international, (etc.,) but in the same breath can say that for woodworking & construction type things, I just never made the change (because no one else really has), so its all inches and feet still in my brain. 

[gstallons]

Where I have been on construction equipment , you have to look on the bolt head for markings , 10.8 , 12.9 ,etc. or lines for grade 6 or 8 . There is NO method in the madness. 

[Pressureangle]

48 minutes ago, gstallons said:

Where I have been on construction equipment , you have to look on the bolt head for markings , 10.8 , 12.9 ,etc. or lines for grade 6 or 8 . There is NO method in the madness. 

Worse, nobody knows what they mean except 'more is better'. Why do I have to add 2 to those lines to get the grade? What the heck is a 'grade' anyway? 
 Perhaps the Metric numbers are 'thousands of psi' tensile strength. Oh wait, 'K of kilograms' or something.

[audiomick]

1 hour ago, Pressureangle said:

...
 Perhaps the Metric numbers are 'thousands of psi' tensile strength. Oh wait, 'K of kilograms' or something.

It's not that complicated, actually. Look here.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festigkeitsklasse