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Greetings all.

Was wondering from any and all that may know if and what would be needed if possible to transplant the Ohlins front legs as well as the rear shock assy from a V 11 Sport to the Griso 2015.

Thoughts as I plan on doing something to improve the front feel and handling of this monster this winter.

 

Thx in advance.

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Don't know but sounds like a waste of time to me. Firstly your downgrading the brakes and I'm sure a pair of 2015 USD forks would work better than the 20 year old Ohlins OEM grade forks anyway. Just get the std Griso forks upgraded with aftermarket internals.

The rear shock wont transfer and there are better alternatives around now. There has been suspension progress in the last 20 years.

Ciao

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Andriani do a fork internal for stock forks or as phil said, get a front end off a suzuki gsxr or R1 or the like at probably the same price and you'll have a better front end and brakes. I did this to a TRX850 swapping to a R1 front end .. you would never go back.

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I can only relate to riding my riding buddy Darren's Griso SE.  First time I rode it, the tires were worn and it was one of the worst handling bikes I'd ever ridden.  He put on new tires and the bike handled quite well.  Totally transformed.  It's also got a rev-ier engine than my V11 Sport and is a bit quicker.  

My only point is I've never seen a tire change make as much difference in a motorcycle than riding that Griso.  It was almost dangerous in the corners at it would fall sharply and then understeer.  Extremely unpredictable.  New tires and it handled really well, almost on par with the Sport.

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The TRX850 Trixie was Yamaha's first stab at crossplane cranks in their own brand. IDK, but they may also have developed the idea for some other maker, as well. The 850s tended to use oil - dunno if that was ever fixed. In Yamaha tradition, it was probably fixed the year they cancelled it. The current 07 Yamaha is no relation, as it has 4 valves instead of 5, FI instead of carbs and 6 speeds rather than 5. As usual, no US sales.We got the (IMO) butt-ugly TDM850. OK., some liked her, but not here.

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Thx for that all......... no I would not be the one to break up and cannibalize a perfectly good V-11 Sport for the suspension.That being said I have often wondered if there was any sense in transplanting those wonderfull Ohlins goodies from a Sport to the Griso SE.

I will be tackling this issue this winter as I ride with three other individuals that also are in the process of trying to make these machines handle better.

I will start with rubber........... any thoughts on premium Ohlins complete rear shock assy and Ohlins internals for the stock legs on the SE?

Would be good to hear objective reply's as I understand the bias comments after spending the big dollars and not feeling the results expected..... been there with others.

Thx in advance.

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The stock forks on a Griso are actually fairly decent forks, and really only need to be properly sprung and valved. You don't need to replace the internals, but you can. As I recall, the same forks are used on the Aprilia RSV. But I could be mis-remembering.

The rear shock is not very good, but there are a number of quality replacements available. Take your pick.

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Thx for that Moto...... Any one out there have a Ohlins premium sprung 8V Griso?

Would be interested in your take.

PM if you need too;

Ciao

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I did an Ohlins modification to a Griso front end but ended up using Sachs forks off an RSV4 with Matris internals on mine. Also have a Matris shock on the back. The bloke I sold the Ohlins too is very happy I believe.

Having said that the stock Showas are a spectacularly good fork. They are just terribly sprung and valved on the Griso! There are a host of decent rear shocks around. Order one 20mm longer eye to eye.

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My '02 Scura forks had the seals redone under a recall by PO because of leaky seals.While in the shop he had them re-sprung and valved.Also the shock....Best handling bike I've ever owned.Set up for stiff for smooth roads or track and on those it's quite good...The easiest and cheapest thing to do was buy an Ohlins equipped model and have them sprung and set up for you...

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Oh your trying to go the other way,never mind...

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If you get over to GrisoGhetto & do a search you'll find quite a few people who have tweeked the Griso suspension. From the price conscious to the former racer spending what he considers to be a modest amount but good value with a suspension star.

On my 2013 I purchased a used Ohlins from an Aprilia RSV4, had it rebuilt & changed the spring to better suit my weight. The Showa forks are good enough for various Aprilias, GSX-R's & Honda CBR600's over the years. Have them rebuilt by someone changing the springs & re valving them. Racetech or Ohlins sell valves that fit. It is something of a dark art so if you can find a suspension specialist nearby that will help enormously.

I like my Griso's set up to the degree that I'm swapping the forks on my 2004 V11 Sport to Showa's & will see how that works. 

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Thx for that all........ and yes I'm going to retain the services of our local race suspension shop in the spring and see if we can get this sorted.

Ciao

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