docc Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Well not really, the base is plastic. It's a very tight fit the base clearance on these things esp the first version of the seat on the early bikes. Any contact marks on the seat base? I might consider this mod myself if the clearance is there. Ciao That's a great observation and question. And caution for those who have done modification this to inspect their seat base for fouling. I have had to relieve my seat base for several clearance issues and know others have, as well. Simple enough with a Dremel, sometimes replacing polymer panels to cover the underside of any exposed foam. Definitely do not want our seat bases sitting on our battery terminals.
Chuck Posted March 27, 2021 Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Lucky Phil said: Well not really, the base is plastic. It's a very tight fit the base clearance on these things esp the first version of the seat on the early bikes. Any contact marks on the seat base? I might consider this mod myself if the clearance is there. Ciao I'm pretty careful about that kind of stuff.. but I went out and got my modeling clay. Unfortunately, it's gone missing but it *appears* to have plenty of clearance. Plastic or not, pressure on those posts would not be a good thing.. 1 1
Lucky Phil Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, Chuck said: I'm pretty careful about that kind of stuff.. but I went out and got my modeling clay. Unfortunately, it's gone missing but it *appears* to have plenty of clearance. Plastic or not, pressure on those posts would not be a good thing.. Ok thanks Chuck. I was very surprised at how tight the original base was on my bike. I made a simple aluminium extension strap so the runner battery strap wasn't pulled so tight and that wouldn't allow the seat to clip down because the metal ring on the rubber strap now sat flat on the battery top, sheez. I tried my later seat and it definitly has more under seat clearance to things and a simpler cleaner detail design. Ciao 1
docc Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Ok thanks Chuck. I was very surprised at how tight the original base was on my bike. I made a simple aluminium extension strap so the runner battery strap wasn't pulled so tight and that wouldn't allow the seat to clip down because the metal ring on the rubber strap now sat flat on the battery top, sheez. I tried my later seat and it definitely has more under seat clearance to things and a simpler cleaner detail design. Ciao I remember relieving a ridge on my original seat pan because it was cutting the battery strap. I bought a second hand seat later and the PO had cut out the entire battery area to the exposed foam (makes the seat pan pretty flimsy). My solution to the seat pressing the battery was to attach the battery basket to the bottom of the subframe at the front, gaining maybe 3mm to 5mm. 1
Lucky Phil Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, docc said: I remember relieving a ridge on my original seat pan because it was cutting the battery strap. I bought a second hand seat later and the PO had cut out the entire battery area to the exposed foam (makes the seat pan pretty flimsy). My solution to the seat pressing the battery was to attach the battery basket to the bottom of the subframe at the front, gaining maybe 3mm to 5mm. Good idea docc, might try that next time I have the battery out. Ciao
docc Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Good idea docc, might try that next time I have the battery out. Ciao A couple things made me nervous about making that change. One was shock clearance (it's tight down there!) . . . The other was the nuts loosening and the bolts dropping out, then the battery and basket dropping onto the shock sending me halfway to a bad day. Pretty sure I either used NyLoc nuts or LocTite or both. 2
andy york Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 plus one for mounting the battery tray from the underside. mines been like that for .......long time I guess 1 1
docc Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 Pretty sure I learned this set-up from Andy (along with a boat load of other stuff . . .). Okay, I remember now that the bolts screw up through the threaded nuts welded to the underside of the subframe. I was still nervous about them loosening and topped them with flange nuts. The bolts are too short to fully engage the "locking" nuts, so I drenched them in blue LocTite. Like Andy, been there > a long time < . . . I just measured and this drops the front of the battery basket 0.360"/ ~9mm (almost 3/8"!) because of the thickness of the basket metal plus the thickness of the subframe plate and the thickness of the welded nuts underneath) . . . 1 2
footgoose Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, docc said: I remember relieving a ridge on my original seat pan because it was cutting the battery strap. I bought a second hand seat later and the PO had cut out the entire battery area to the exposed foam (makes the seat pan pretty flimsy). My solution to the seat pressing the battery was to attach the battery basket to the bottom of the subframe at the front, gaining maybe 3mm to 5mm. I did the same docc, and got a bit more by bending the tab some 1 1
Nihontochicken Posted March 28, 2021 Posted March 28, 2021 No marks on my seat base (2004 Naked) from the battery L post adapters, but then I weigh only about 150 pounds all suited up. Real men may have a different experience. 2
cash1000 Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 To fit the battery cage under the frame below the rear of the tank do you have to file back some of the front straps of the battery cage to make it fit?
80CX100 Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 12 hours ago, cash1000 said: To fit the battery cage under the frame below the rear of the tank do you have to file back some of the front straps of the battery cage to make it fit? My V11 is a 2003, I had to grind off the front and outside corners to keep the bracket from fouling on the frame rails on my bike. I found it a finigly pita job working blind and upside down to lower the battery bracket, but it's so crowded in that area, I'm extremely glad I persevered and got it done Picking up the Odyssey L adapter brackets will be an added bonus for making connections easier to manage as well. fwiw good luck 1
docc Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, 80CX100 said: My V11 is a 2003, I had to grind off the front and outside corners to keep the bracket from fouling on the frame rails on my bike. I found it a finigly pita job working blind and upside down to lower the battery bracket, but it's so crowded in that area, I'm extremely glad I persevered and got it done Picking up the Odyssey L adapter brackets will be an added bonus for making connections easier to manage as well. fwiw good luck Thanks for that @80CX100! Apparently, I had forgotten about this fitment. Peering in with a bright light, I can see the outside corners of the bracket at the front are radiused. Seems you have your answer, @cash1000 ! 1
cash1000 Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 Excellent. I won't let V11 know I'm getting grinder out 3
docc Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 Yep, there it is: February, 2004. I forgot about the corner mod . . . 1
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