Moto Guzzi V100 Sport Tourer: water cooled, 120 HP (26th of August 2021)

[docc]

5 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said:

Bloody hell I must be getting bad, Pete Roper is trying to pacify and settle me down, LOL. Yea I saw the front bearing solution in the BB from those training notes you sent me, not that impressed with that. What I loved about bevel drive Ducatis was there wasn't a single chain in the whole engine and every bearing was replaceable in the average blokes workshop with the exception of the big end which needed a press and some engineering expertise to do. I didn't like the transition to cams running in the head material either. Kawasaki 900's used plain replaceable cam bearing but that was abandoned as well. I know it's inevitable the way things are going and it's unstoppable, but rage,rage against the dying of the engineering light I say, 

You are correct in that just about anything can be saved by an engineering/ machining specialist but you know Pete those people are fading away as well. I wouldn't be at all surprised if in 20 years time they dont exist anymore.

Anyway, whats this "retirement" thing I thought you were already?

Ciao 

That is wildly funny. And genuinely funny things must be true . . .

[Lucky Phil]

8 minutes ago, docc said:

That is wildly funny. And genuinely funny things must be true . . .

So I need to settle down? Be honest, I've been in lockdown for 4 weeks.

Ciao 

[docc]

2 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said:

So I need to settle down? Be honest, I've been in lockdown for 4 weeks.

Ciao 

Haha, so . . . say if you and Pete were to pull me aside and say, "Yo, docc  - ya need to settle down a bit there, bud."     .  .  .  .

Pretty sure V11LM.com will have a Moderator opening . . . 

[Lucky Phil]

2 minutes ago, docc said:

Haha, so . . . say if you and Pete were to pull me aside and say, "Yo, docc  - ya need to settle down a bit there, bud."     .  .  .  .

Pretty sure V11LM.com will have a Moderator opening . . . 

Yea I don't think Pete and I would be qualified to give the "settle down" talk to anyone on a forum Both too curmudgeonly, happily so I suspect, for me anyway.

Ciao  

 

[docc]

And, > honestly, I find these perspectives about engineering and product offerings quite revealing. As a consumer, it is impossible for me to judge the engineering competence of a product that interests me.  Too often, it is more about the wrapper or the label.

I feel like I got really lucky with mySport. I'm thinking about keeping her . . .

[LowRyter]

Phil needs an electric bike.  

But by all means, keep laying into Pete.  He can take it. 

[Lucky Phil]

6 minutes ago, LowRyter said:

Phil needs an electric bike.  

But by all means, keep laying into Pete.  He can take it. 

That would send me completely over the edge

I think we should all be kinder to each other and be there to comfort, console and support each other through these stressful times. Anyone want to donate me a full restored Ambassador  I'd be very comforted by one of those to put around on.

Ciao 

[LowRyter]

Phil, I knew you were a kind soul. 

(but I had to read between the lines to think that)  

[docc]

You guys rock. Whatever Piaggio does cannot shake The Rock that am y'all. 

                                                     

[pete roper]

Get rooted!

 

 

Actually if you wanted me to make a list of the things that shit me about the 8V we could start with the shitty plastic oil pump gear and move on from there. How about a crank with no sludge trap that they sold as being '30% stronger'? My fat, pimply arse! It was just a way of saving a machining operation. I could rail on for hours but there's no point. It's still a magnificent engine, way better than the 'Old' Hi-Cam but it's not without faults and some of the penny pinching shits me to tears!

[Lucky Phil]

12 minutes ago, pete roper said:

Get rooted!

 

 

Actually if you wanted me to make a list of the things that shit me about the 8V we could start with the shitty plastic oil pump gear and move on from there. How about a crank with no sludge trap that they sold as being '30% stronger'? My fat, pimply arse! It was just a way of saving a machining operation. I could rail on for hours but there's no point. It's still a magnificent engine, way better than the 'Old' Hi-Cam but it's not without faults and some of the penny pinching shits me to tears!

No Pete rail away, I'm stuck at home, nowhere to go or I'll get arrested:)

Ciao 

[pete roper]

Yeah, we're locked down solid too. Trez boring.

[docc]

Pretty sure Moto Guzzi knows not to try and make something I'll be moving up to from mySport, which I obviously already love and won't give up.    

And it appears they are not at all inclined to mount a proper transverse V-twin to my follow-on . . .

OTOH, it has been a fascination to watch my son adopt motorcycling and work his way from a 2014 V7 (that he caféed), then to a V85TT (that he rides "adventure-style" = creek crossings,camping, and sketch roads).

Where do these kids get these crazy ideas?

[LowRyter]

roll another one,  don't bogart that.....

[docc]

IMHO, Moto Guzzi, cum Piaggio, has done an admirable job of creating product offerings that appeal to their future market. (Er, that ain't us, y'all . . . ).

That the current V7/9 range and the bold V85TT has done so very well, worldwide, speaks volumes.

How long this brave, new water-cooler might take to become established . . .  

Beta testing, anyone?