Guest Warren Rhen Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 I have a leather perforated jacket and leather perforated pants that I like very much. It has all the armour and is very comfortable and I wear it in the summer. I would like to wear it for my cold weather riding also but the perforation makes it too cold. Is there something I could wear under it that would be windproof, warm and pretty thin. If it's too bulky I won't be able to wear it and still fit in the leathers.
al_roethlisberger Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 That's a hard call, as it's hard to block all that ventilation. But you might check into underarmor: http://www.safetyleague.com/Products/Unifo...or/ColdGear.htm I've been thinking about getting some for hot weather. I hear great stuff about their apparel, especially for hot weather.... al
Guest dkgross Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 wow. Cool stuff!!!! I actually have some thermal stuff from the Aerostich catalog that I wear under my perf leathers. The Thermax stuff is great for keeping warm under the perf stuff: http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store also, in the hot weather, the dri-gear is great to keep persperation off of the jacket. I wish they made some long-johns to go under the perf pants tho..
gthyni Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 You don't want syntetic material closest to the body is you crash since some melts and burns into your skin if you slide on tarmac. Keep the leather asis for protection and add a layer of windbreaking and waterproof jacket and pant OVER that.
Admin Jaap Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 Keep the leather asis for protection and add a layer of windbreakingand waterproof jacket and pant OVER that. That's my idea too.
Guest dkgross Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 good point about not having synthetic next to the skin... so, what do you do if you don't want perspiration to soak into the leather pants? My Vansons' are lined, but it's not removeable for washing...
gthyni Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 good point about not having synthetic next to the skin... so, what do you do if you don't want perspiration to soak into the leather pants? My Vansons' are lined, but it's not removeable for washing... Cotton underwear, but during summer it get a little warn with longlegged underwear. Anyway I wash my leather garment in water and soap, let them drip dry and oil them up with mink oil when dry. I have even put a heavy duty leather jacket in the washing machine with good result.
Enzo Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 I have a Darien jacket for real cold and a Joe Rocket non-perforated jacket for normal - around 60 degree f. temperatures. My friend recently won a nice-lookingTeknic PERFORATED jacket which he sold to me at a good price. I was amazed at how chilly the thing is. I almost froze to death. I will now only wear it if the temps are over 70 f. So, my advice is to FORGET about using perforated anything if it is even a little cool. Just get a regular leather jacket or textile when it is not hot.
al_roethlisberger Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 The synthetic isn't a big deal in regard to melting in a crash, especially if you have leathers over them. Can it happen? Sure I guess, but Cordura solutions like those used by Aerostitch, etc... wouldn't be so popular if it were a major issue. In my experience with running in the heat and motorcycling in very hot and cold weather, although I too like the feel of cotton, it doesn't do a good job in either extreme if it gets even slightly wet... from perspiration or water. I was amazed with the difference in comfort when I switched to proper running shorts versus cotton Similarly I have special motorcyling underwear that is designed to reduce "seam burn" on those 10+ hour days, and they wick the moisture away so it can evaporate. A huge difference in comfort. Anyway, YMMV, but if you have the proper gear over your underwear, I wouldn't worry too much about the "melting" factor. After all, if you've gotten that far through your armor to begin melting and abrading your underwear, well, I don't think a couple mm of cotton or poly is going to really make that much difference .... al
gthyni Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 I don't know how it comes to be, people with leather suits tend to slide tarmac more... I would like to try that in anything textil looked bad enough as it was. now we had naked hairy ass in "Technical ...", which answer a question in "24/7"
jrt Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 I really didn't need to see that. Why don't any of you wear silk undies? Too hot? J
Guest callithrix Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 Careful we may need to start marketing this as an adult only site
al_roethlisberger Posted April 6, 2004 Posted April 6, 2004 Silk is a good alternative as well. One can get silk uppers and lowers at just about any sporting goods store, especially if they sell snow/ski apparel. But the new synthetics from underarmor, etc... have become quite good as well. al
windchill Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Chill Killers form Knox!! They work a treat - anything from neckies to full body suits. www.planet-knox.com
belfastguzzi Posted April 7, 2004 Posted April 7, 2004 Natural wool, surely, has become all the rage again. I used to wear my granda's old woolen vests for mountaineering when it was deeply unfashionable and everyone was in plastic. Although I am out of touch, I think wool has made a comeback as a 'perfect' material, though it's probably called Special Organic Insulation Fibre or something and costs 5 times what it used to. It probably doesn't scratch any more. It stays warm (heats up) when wet, is fire resistant, lightish, renewable, long lasting, biodegradable.... and you can probably get it in second hand clothes shops, still in nearly as good condition as the day it was made, 50 years ago.
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