arveno Posted July 6, 2022 Author Posted July 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, docc said: Alright, so, "better" with the Tune-up, CO zeroed. This V11 has the original airbox? New (paper) air filter? No the distinguished lol previous owner remover the air box and installed a set of cone K&N I was gonna try riding it removing them… probably I will next time I have time to
docc Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, arveno said: No the distinguished lol previous owner remover the air box and installed a set of cone K&N I was gonna try riding it removing them… probably I will next time I have time to This may be an opportunity. Where has the air temperature sensor relocated to?
arveno Posted July 6, 2022 Author Posted July 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, docc said: This may be an opportunity. Where has the air temperature sensor relocated to? I see a male plug not plugged to anything behind the right hand throttle body 1
docc Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 54 minutes ago, arveno said: I see a male plug not plugged to anything behind the right hand throttle body Any way to post a pic of that? (Gallery album works best unless you use a hosting site) . . . [edit: the plugs on the right side that come to mind are the Engine Temperature Sensor on the inboard side of the right head, the TPS on top of the right throttle body, and the (missing?) Air Temperature Sensor that would have been on the right front of the factory airbox . . . ] [edit 2: Is the loose connector 3 pins or 2? Blue or black? Square or oval?]
arveno Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, docc said: Any way to post a pic of that? (Gallery album works best unless you use a hosting site) . . . [edit: the plugs on the right side that come to mind are the Engine Temperature Sensor on the inboard side of the right head, the TPS on top of the right throttle body, and the (missing?) Air Temperature Sensor that would have been on the right front of the factory airbox . . . ] The ETS is plugged in the head . there is a connector ( I said plugs ) that is disconnected. it lays behind the right throttle body. I guess it was connected To the air box? what should I do with it? tried posting pics it says they are too big ..
docc Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 Looking like your PO removed the airbox and may have neglected to replace the Air Temperature Sensor.
docc Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 Factory Air Temperature Sensor location (with modified airbox intakes): 1
Pressureangle Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 12 hours ago, arveno said: Obviously I put brand new plugs Remember, nothing is obvious from a distance. Just trying to help. 2
arveno Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 11 hours ago, docc said: Factory Air Temperature Sensor location (with modified airbox intakes): Hi Docc thank you so much , that might be the issue. but I don’t understand how do I fix it ? if the PO didn’t replace the ATS how do I correct this? everything was removed ( air box etc ) Thank you again. 1
Pressureangle Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 The ATS has as it's only purpose, to tell the computer the temperature of the air coming into the engine is. So you can literally hang a new ATS from the end of the connector and it will work, although it would probably not live long without a permanent mount. A simple bracket mounted anywhere near an intake, or between them, will suffice. If it's in the open, probably should be inspected periodically for debris and dirt. 2
docc Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 45 minutes ago, Pressureangle said: The ATS has as it's only purpose, to tell the computer the temperature of the air coming into the engine is. So you can literally hang a new ATS from the end of the connector and it will work, although it would probably not live long without a permanent mount. A simple bracket mounted anywhere near an intake, or between them, will suffice. If it's in the open, probably should be inspected periodically for debris and dirt. Exactly! I recall members with airbox removed fitting the ATS in a 35mm "film canister" (remember those? ) and mounting it in the air stream along the frame spine away from engine heat. Without the ATS, the ECU goes into some default mode. What do you see for Air Temperature in GuzziDiag? 1
arveno Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 50 minutes ago, Pressureangle said: The ATS has as it's only purpose, to tell the computer the temperature of the air coming into the engine is. So you can literally hang a new ATS from the end of the connector and it will work, although it would probably not live long without a permanent mount. A simple bracket mounted anywhere near an intake, or between them, will suffice. If it's in the open, probably should be inspected periodically for debris and dirt. Ahhhh ok now this is making sense and that could be the reason why it is so rich? one more question where do I buy a ATS ? thank you !!!! 2
docc Posted July 7, 2022 Posted July 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, arveno said: Ahhhh ok now this is making sense and that could be the reason why it is so rich? one more question where do I buy a ATS ? thank you !!!! One can hope! https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1226 1
arveno Posted July 7, 2022 Author Posted July 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, docc said: One can hope! https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1226 Just bought it….. thank you so much.will report back as soon as I receive it . Thank you everyone for the patience have a great day 2
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