Guest bshpilot Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I've been thinking of adding a cyl. head temp guage...but now i see that someone has an oil temp & nice installation set up. wondering if anyone has done either of these & if they have better pictures. heres a TRANSLATED <english> link.... http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie.../language_tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Wow, that's expensive.... I wonder where the sensor bolts into? And it looks like you lose our nifty dashboard(although I assume you could mount the gauge elsewhere if desired, especially on a LeMans). I've got one of those goofy dip-stick thermometers from MG Cycle, and although you can't see it when riding(without gymnastics ) and I'm sure it's not hyper accurate, I have used it for various testing when troubleshooting various heat-related issues, and it's at least "consistent" Anyway, other than neato factor, I'm not sure what this would buy you.... I don't think anyone has reported any overheating issues with these bikes per se, even in high-temp environments. We have had some "heat related" problems with the fuel systems, or the valve lash being too tight, but no endemic problems with the engine overheating. I guess like with any air-cooled bike, one just has to use common sense about sitting too long in the heat. A few years back, I was in the Nevada desert, where they had just laid new jet-black tarmac... and traffic was stop and go for about 45min while they continued with some road work. After sitting for about a minute and a half, and realizing we weren't moving anytime soon.... I just shut my FJ1200 off and waited. But anyway, as a "farkle" I think this gauge is pretty neat. I'd probably buy one if I had $300+ just lying around You know how I like "gizmos" I just don't know if it's "necessary" BTW, it's also only listed as available for the Sport1100 and Daytona. I don't know if that matters for a V11 Sport/LeMans application. al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Don't think I'd be paying 200 euro for an oil temp guage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 ...they sure do have some nice stuff though al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bshpilot Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 in their defense you wouldnt be paying JUST for the guage...theres a few more bits.... its more informational for me...most of my other bikes have a temp guage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 in their defense you wouldnt be paying JUST for the guage...theresa few more bits.... its more informational for me...most of my other bikes have a temp guage... I gotcha ...same here regarding "more info"... heck I almost installed a fuel-pressure gauge during all my pump relo projects In the end I thought it was overkill though. I wouldn't mind a real oil PRESSURE gauge though. That might be more useful than the "uh oh, I just cooked my main bearings" idiot light, or oil temp <_> I've wondered about the best place to put that though, other than just tee-ing off the location for the current oil-pressure sensor. I don't think there's a tap anywhere else I could put a pressure sensor into Maybe someone knows of one, I don't upon casual inspection. Oh, and although I don't know the answer to your first question: cyl. head or oil [temp] I'm going to guess that based on the fitting in the photo, and what most people care about, it's oil temp, not head temperature. The only real advantage knowing head-temps is tuning the ECU for air/fuel ratio. al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Jaap Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Inspector Gadget... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bshpilot Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 agreed...dont wanna be too much of a devils advocate... but man price a guage lately...45-60 bucks (U.S.) JUST for the guage...not to mention the nice integration...or the fact that our numbers are "small" as a market...were not talkin' generic under the dash of my mass-market-FORD-pickup truck set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 True, but based on my frequent trips to the local "speed shop".... I think you could put together a temp kit for under $100-120, which would include the oil-filled gauge, braided SS teflon line, fitting, and a generic bracket. This kit, while well thought out, and admittedly nice, is a bit pricey IMHO. I think one would be paying quite a premium for the new dashboard al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 well, I do have the kit, the sensor comes in the bolt between the cylinders were the oil lines go to the heads, so you measure the temp from the ooil going to the heads. You don't need the dash for a v11, so you order these parts: 200-116516649901 Öltemperaturanzeigeinstrument VEGLIA € 60.10 037093180 Öltemperaturgeber VEGLIA € 12.80 200-0303 Hohlschraube (Adapter) M8 zu Öltemperaturgeber, für 1100 Sport (2-Ventiler) € 19.70 On my v11 scura these parts were mounted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 Ahh, interesing.... that's a good location for the sensor, and pricing for the other parts isn't too bad. Where was the gauge mounted on the Scura? al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 I've wondered about the best place to put that though, other than just tee-ing off the location for the current oil-pressure sensor. I don't think there's a tap anywhere else I could put a pressure sensor into Maybe someone knows of one, I don't upon casual inspection. On all the ones I've seen, oil pressure sensors have replaced the stock sensor for the idiot light. The mounting styles have ranged from professional-looking in the instrument cluster to a gauge zip-tied to the crash bar. I liked that one. The only other place I can think of mounting the sensor (off hand) is at the oil cooler- but that's regulated by valve, isn't it? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Minnaert Posted May 11, 2004 Share Posted May 11, 2004 between tank and steeringhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bshpilot Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 very nice...although i suspect id like the guage a bit more angled toward my view...but i like it very much. what is that 'switch' on the throttle side...between the mirror and switch gear... hey i see you should flush the clutch fluid (pretty black) .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 ...interesting location, but of course that wouldn't work on the 2003+ tank. However, on a LeMans, there are plenty of fairing locations Poor Paul, everyone telling him to flush that Scura's clutch fluid every time he posts a picture of it Good thing you sold it! al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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