audiomick Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 On 6/4/2023 at 12:49 AM, MartyNZ said: The relay bases have dovetail grooves to link each base to the next. So the sockets for the relays are single units that are attached to each other, are they? I had assumed that it was a block. Are the sockets (bases) hard to get? I would imagine it is a standard part, but a quick search at Wendel didn't yield a part number. 1
p6x Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, docc said: Ah, yes. That extra relay is so well mounted and aligned I did not realize it had been added! It was a test... I posted the photos to verify if someone would notice there were six relays instead of five. You passed! 4
Art Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 What do you guys think of these? Hard-wire them in somewhere and forget about them. These are so overkill that heat should not be a problem.
audiomick Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 @p6x would you care to name the manufacturer and model/ type of the socket you used for the sixth relay? I've tried a prefunctory search in the 'net, but it seems to be not so easy to find out what exactly they are. Edit: hang on, is this the right one? https://www.stein-dinse.com/de/moto-guzzi-relaishalter-mini-350-750-nevada-california/item-2-1118761-Relaishalter-.html
docc Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Not exactly, but close. Our mounting blocks "dovetail" together, between each, and each has a mounting tab, with hole, on "the back side". I can't get an image that is clear. Looks like: 3 334 486 065 and a logo that maybe looks like an "E" in a circle. edit: Okay, here we go: https://rct-global.com/part/base-to-suit-micro-relay-mountable-bosch-3-334-485-045/ 2 3
docc Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Ah, yes, what I thought might be an "E" in a circle logo looks to be Bosch: 2 1
audiomick Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 Thanks docc. Looks like that is not too hard to source. 1
guzziart Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 FWIW, Greg Bender….https://www.thisoldtractor.com/for_sale_wiring_harness.html I got my "dovetail mount" relay recepticle from Greg so I could add a high current starter relay and piggy backed it on to the other existing relays. Art 2
docc Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, guzziart said: FWIW, Greg Bender….https://www.thisoldtractor.com/for_sale_wiring_harness.html I got my "dovetail mount" relay recepticle from Greg so I could add a high current starter relay and piggy backed it on to the other existing relays. Art I couldn't find this relay mount on Greg Bender's site, but did find that he offers individual TE AMP SuperSeal connectors, from one to six positions, for those of us who may need to replace damaged seals. https://www.thisoldtractor.com/for_sale_wiring_harness_close_outs.html 1 1
guzziart Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Docc. Call Greg.....480-416-6474. I don't think everything he has available is posted at the website. Art 1
audiomick Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 It seems to be a Bosch part. I also noticed the circular Logo that docc identified further up. I'm assuming that Bosch is also fairly common in the USA. Here, any useful auto-electric shop should be able to source Bosch parts. I quick search in the interweb also produced a number of hits. If Greg Bender has them, good. He deserves the custom. What I'm getting at is, I don't think one needs to get too concerned about sourcing the things. It is apparently nothing particularly special, just an off-the-shelf Bosch part. 1
docc Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Who has a source for the correct female electrical connectors that lock into those blocks?
audiomick Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Your link for the base further up yielded this: https://rct-global.com/part/receptacle-to-suit-standard-relay-bases-bosch-1-901-355-917/ I searched the part number and found this spec sheet: https://www.ibs-gruppe.de/shop/media/pdf/b6/60/e0/Datenblatt57ba9779de6cd.pdf The part is in the fourth last entry. 6.3mm width, suitable for wire gauges from 1.5 to 2.5 mm². Looks good to me. Once again, that appears to be an off-the-shelf Bosch part.
docc Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, audiomick said: Your link for the base further up yielded this: https://rct-global.com/part/receptacle-to-suit-standard-relay-bases-bosch-1-901-355-917/ I searched the part number and found this spec sheet: https://www.ibs-gruppe.de/shop/media/pdf/b6/60/e0/Datenblatt57ba9779de6cd.pdf The part is in the fourth last entry. 6.3mm width, suitable for wire gauges from 1.5 to 2.5 mm². Looks good to me. Once again, that appears to be an off-the-shelf Bosch part. I can't see that the last entry on that product sheet is the correct female spade sockets that lock into the relay block. Perhaps the eighth line? Flachsteckhülse (blade receptacle) 6,3 0,8 1,0 – 2,5 CuZn/blank 100 8 784 477 008
audiomick Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 No, go down a bit. You're looking for # 1 901 355 975. The second last column with the grey background, 100 or 50 or 25, is the number of units in a package ( Stück je Packung ). The part number is the last column; "Bestellnummer", 10 digits. In the first grey column from the left, see "Flachsteckhülse mit Rastnase". The Rastnase is the barb that holds the receptacle in the relay base. 1
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