Alternator bolt / side stand mount

[arveno]

Hello everyone 

how do you guys call that long bolt that goes trough the alternator cover and on one side it is attached the side stand mount ?

 

where can I find one ?

 

[docc]

The one circled in red or the bigger one at the top left of the image?

[arveno]

25 minutes ago, docc said:

The one circled in red or the bigger one at the top left of the image?

Top left thank you :-)

[docc]

Alright, @arveno:

3 - "screw" GU30432801

4 - "Special washer"  GU95021114

8 -  "Washer"  GU95100120

Neither the Parts catalog nor the Workshop Manual shows any dimensions.

[ Also, note that it torques to 70-75 Nm ! ]

 

[audiomick]

2 hours ago, docc said:

3 - "screw" GU30432801

Neither the Parts catalog nor the Workshop Manual shows any dimensions.

Looks to me to be a bit of a "special" item.

The picture is from Stein-Dinse, where it is quite expensive.

https://www.stein-dinse.com/de/staenderschraube-daytona-2-serie/item-2-1117062-30432801-.html

 

Wendel apparently has one (but only one...) for a lot less money. The question is, what would it cost to have it sent to where you are.

https://wendelmotorraeder.de/schraube_gu30432801-p-1009294.html?ref=expl

 

EDIT: PS on the Wendel page, underneath the price, it says

"(statt 39,90 € ehemaliger VK)"

which means "instead of the original list price of €39.90".

So even though the Stein-Dinse price seems high, it is apparently not exorbitant.

[docc]

Yes, that bolt is very specific. Along with one of the two "washers."

I am hoping someone has the whole Rube Goldberg sidestand assembly in a pile and could measure the parts . . .

[arveno]

Cadre cycle has one -:) 8 bucks ah ah 

thanks 

[audiomick]

36 minutes ago, docc said:

..the whole Rube Goldberg sidestand assembly...

I had to look for that, and then had to chuckle a bit.

 

For those not familiar with US culture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg

[docc]

38 minutes ago, arveno said:

Cadre cycle has one -:) 8 bucks ah ah 

thanks 

Order today = June delivery?

[gstallons]

I heard that name a looong time ago !

[paulnaz]

 Bolt Dimensions

  14mmX1.5 pitch

  Thread length 28mm.

  I may have one in my stash and will look  this afternoon.

  Paul B

[docc]

3 hours ago, paulnaz said:

 Bolt Dimensions

  14mmX1.5 pitch

  Thread length 28mm.

  I may have one in my stash and will look  this afternoon.

  Paul B

Any insights on the washers (especially the "special" washer)?

[paulnaz]

External tooth lockwasher, is the only washer I have. No clue what the second one is.

 I did find an extra bolt in my stash.

Paul B

washer.webp

[audiomick]

4 hours ago, docc said:

Any insights on the washers (especially the "special" washer)?

Once again from the Stein-Dinse catalogue:

https://www.stein-dinse.biz/etkataloge/etkataloge.php?l=de&h=MG&m=220&t=5368

#4 on the diagram, GU 95021114. The part offered for sale is apparently after-market, not original Guzzi.

https://www.stein-dinse.com/de/zahnscheibe-nml/item-2-1310507-95021114-.html

 

#8 GU 91120620, "spacer washer". This is an apparently original Guzzi replacement for GU 95005320

https://www.stein-dinse.com/de/distanzscheibe/item-2-1302017-91120620-.html

No dimensions there either, unfortunately.

The outside diameter could be guessed from the photo, I reckon. The thickness, perhaps more critical when they call it a "spacer washer", might be harder. Going by the picture, I'd guess something like 4mm.

 

[docc]

The bolt would likely bottom in the blind hole without a spacer standing it off. A pair of normal flat washers "might " do it, but getting the 70-75 Nm is apparently important to expect that little leg to hold up our heavy girl . . .

Just a reminder for everyone to check that torque and make sure the smaller (red circled) fastener hasn't wiggled itself loose. When that one fails, it takes a bit of the sump spacer with it.