Can you spot the intruder?

[Bill Hagan]

2 hours ago, po18guy said:

Aber nur ob sie eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung haben!

You need that for beer?! 

[docc]

20 hours ago, po18guy said:

Aber nur ob sie eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung haben!

 

17 hours ago, Bill Hagan said:

You need that for beer?! 

I better stay home .  .  .

[audiomick]

On 3/30/2024 at 10:47 PM, po18guy said:

Aber nur ob wenn Sie eine Aufenthaltsgenehmigung haben!

No worries mate, I got mine neary 30 years ago.

22 hours ago, Bill Hagan said:

You need that for beer?! 

Only if you want to drink more beer than you can get in within the 90 day standard Schengen area tourist visa.

So @docc , come on over. I'll buy you one or three.

[p6x]

Since we are talking about Beer, are you Kölsch or IPA?

I found that Germany may be one of the rare place in Europe that does not partake in IPA. IPA is not German tradition. I was surprised.

I don't know if I ever sampled a Kölsch, but the next time I am in Fredericksburg:

https://www.altstadtbeer.com/beers/kolsch/

 

[audiomick]

I've had a Kölsch a few times. What one needs to know about it is, people from Cologne think it is the best thing ever invented, and people from most other places don't concede that it qualifies as beer.

I tend to prefer beer from southern Germany. One of the best is, in my opinion, Tegernseer Hell

https://www.brauhaus-tegernsee.de/tegernseer-biere/biersorten/

Beers from the Czech Republik are often very good. Prime examples are Pilsner Urquell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilsner_Urquell

and Budweiser. No, not the goat piss that is sold in the USA and some other countries, the real Budvar that is made in the Czech Republic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser_Budvar_Brewery

Over and above that, a good Schwarzbier is a fine thing, and yes, I do really enjoy an Indian Pale Ale.

 

I tend to pursue the policy of "try the beer from here", i.e. wherever I might be, I try and find a beer from a local or regional brewery. An interesting and sometimes rewarding pursuit. That means, if I happen to be in Cologne I would drink a Kölsch, or in Düsseldorf an Alt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altbier .

One should know, between Cologne and Düsseldorf lie about 40 km., and a magnitude of differences of opinion that exceeds that between, for instance, avid supporters of two opposing football teams.

In the northernmost parts of Germany, the favoured beer style is Pils, brewed to be markedly bitter. That can be ok too, but is sometimes too bitter for me.

[docc]

 

[po18guy]

Smoked beer.

[p6x]

I was merely discussing beer from a purely academical point of view. I was never a beer drinker, and I still don't qualify for one. This was more about Beer tradition between Germany and the rest of Europe.

Also, when I say Europe, I am referring to the Maastricht treaty signed in 1992, effective 1993. The 12 original countries that signed the treaty. Same as in the USA, with the 13 original states.

12 Stars on the European flag, and 13 stripes on the US flag.

My passion was/is in the wine, and I participated to two harvests from grapes cutting to wine making. First with traditional wine, second with sparkling wine in the region commonly known as Champagne. I was blessed in having the opportunity to continue my journey by working in several countries with a wine tradition.

That's my end of it.

Texas makes wine too, but I am yet to find one that I really like.

 

[audiomick]

7 hours ago, po18guy said:

Smoked beer.

Yeah, tried that in Bamberg when I was there for a week for work some years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoked_beer#Bamberg_Rauchbier

Interesting, but not something I could fill an evening with.

[po18guy]

6 hours ago, audiomick said:

Yeah, tried that in Bamberg when I was there for a week for work some years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoked_beer#Bamberg_Rauchbier

Interesting, but not something I could fill an evening with.

My son uses it in his homemade barbecue sauce. He looks for malty beer and avoids the too-hoppy stuff. I am not a beer drinker, or a drinker at all really, but I found the smoked beer more tolerable than all the others. At least the 2 ounces I drink yearly. 

[audiomick]

8 minutes ago, po18guy said:

At least the 2 ounces I drink yearly. 

Yeah, that would be good.

The standard glass in southern Germany is a half-litre. Two of those of smoked beer is enough. It gets pretty penetrant after a while.

[docc]

Returning, in some convoluted way, to the matter of things German(ic), I found it most interesting that Mexican beer, and many from Texas, owe their origins to the Germans (and "Austrians") that emigrated here under Emperor Maximillian. Max did not stay, but the beer did!

One of my current favorites: Shiner Bock (Shiner, Texas) from the Spoetzl Brewery. ("Spötzl?")

 

[audiomick]

23 minutes ago, docc said:

 Spoetzl Brewery. ("Spötzl?")

I would have assumed that the name was originally Spötzl. The bloke apparently came from Bavaria, and that would fit. The Wiki, however, writes it as "Spoetzl". That might be accurate, but it might not. We'll probably never know.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoetzl_Brewery

Germans and Austrians seem to have been generally quite significant in exporting beer culture to the rest of the world. I linked to Pilsner Urquell further up, the original version of that what we know as "normal" beer these days. That was developed by a Bavarian "Braumeister".

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and hired Josef Groll, a Bavarian brewer, to brew a bottom-fermented beer. On 5 October 1842, Groll had a new mash ready and on 11 November 1842, the new beer was first served at the feast of St. Martin markets.^[14]

http://Pilsner Urquell

So we have a lot to thank Germany for. Quite apart from people like Berthold Brecht, Wagner, Neumann (microphones), Karl Marx, and the list goes on...

[po18guy]

23 hours ago, audiomick said:

Yeah, that would be good.

The standard glass in southern Germany is a half-litre. Two of those of smoked beer is enough. It gets pretty penetrant after a while.

It's abdomen-philic.

[swooshdave]

On 3/29/2024 at 12:12 PM, docc said:

It seemed our own @swooshdave might speak to this Frisian business......

Not guilty. I can barely comprehend the English language. I tell people that after several years of German in HS that I know more German from Hogan's Heros.