a simple oil question, i promise

[Steve Swan]

Thank you all for your replies, i am waiting on the o.f. wrench from MG Cycle, i sent Andrew a picture of the filter which has 8 flats and he advised me to purchase the wrench i have on order.  When you say o.f. gasket, i need to look in my parts book.  The cover has a large oil ring.  and the filter has one also.  When you say gasket what are you referring to?

[audiomick]

The one at the top end of the oil filter. I gather it doesn't always come out when one removes the filter.

[Lucky Phil]

5 hours ago, audiomick said:

The one at the top end of the oil filter. I gather it doesn't always come out when one removes the filter.

Yes it sometimes detaches from the filter on removal and sticks to the filter mount and you end up with double gaskets which don’t seal correctly. It’s possibly caused by overtightening the filter. For some reason people think because they can’t see the filter externally on the engine they need to over torque it. The other reason may be filter design which allows overtorquing and distortion of the seal. A lot of filters these days will bottom out if overtorqued so the gasket doesn’t distort to the point of leaking.

phil

[gstallons]

7 hours ago, Steve Swan said:

Thank you all for your replies, i am waiting on the o.f. wrench from MG Cycle, i sent Andrew a picture of the filter which has 8 flats and he advised me to purchase the wrench i have on order.  When you say o.f. gasket, i need to look in my parts book.  The cover has a large oil ring.  and the filter has one also.  When you say gasket what are you referring to?

It is sometimes called a gasket but you can call it what you want look into the open portion of your filter and it has an o-ring or quad seal fubber that seals the oi; from spraying out . 

 Good quick-lube shops require their employees to examine the filter when they remove it and also look at the mounting surface to make sure nothing is stuck to the block. AFA the reason it sticks , who knows . The "fix" is to examine the mating surface and a smear of oil to the seal on installation. You don'twant to lose an engine just because of this .

[Pressureangle]

6 hours ago, gstallons said:

It is sometimes called a gasket but you can call it what you want look into the open portion of your filter and it has an o-ring or quad seal fubber that seals the oi; from spraying out . 

 Good quick-lube shops require their employees to examine the filter when they remove it and also look at the mounting surface to make sure nothing is stuck to the block. AFA the reason it sticks , who knows . The "fix" is to examine the mating surface and a smear of oil to the seal on installation. You don'twant to lose an engine just because of this .

This, I know lol
The seal sticks because it wasn't lubricated. This is why the instructions say to smear a little oil on them. Since quite some time ago, you may notice they started having a white powder on the ring, that's the manufacturer's hopeful solution to lazy or uninformed oil changers.

[Steve Swan]

Gentlemen, i have followed your advice and my better judgement and gone with the Castrol Actevo, 20/50 semi-synth.  That being said, i have 6.5 liters of Motorex Power Synt 10/60 that i'll very likely not ever have any use for.  if anyone is interested, i'll sell the unopened 4 liter jug and the other 1.5 liters for $50 + postage.  Postage will be exact, i'll box the containers up, take the box to the post office, get an exact price on postage and we can go from there. Thanks again for your help, the plus side to this is now i only have to stock one type of oil for the V11, V7R and the 1967 Royal Enfield Interceptor 

Edited October 8 by Steve Swan

[audiomick]

On 10/5/2024 at 5:40 PM, Pressureangle said:

 a white powder on the ring...

That'd be talcum powder, I believe. Same as on inner tubes and such.