Something real or imagined

[activpop]

These days with AI idk if this is real or not.

Edited November 13 by activpop

[audiomick]

That is something imagined. It is a study from Oberdan Bezzi that I have seen a number of times elsewhere, and maybe here as well.

Look here:

https://oberdanbezzi.artstation.com/albums/1117762

 

He turns out dozens, maybe hundreds, of design studies. I don't know if he has ever actually been paid by a manufacturer for a design. Maybe he has, I just don't know.

Anyway, he has been pumping out design studies based on the V100 ever since it came out. Some of them are quite pretty, but it is anyone's guess whether Piaggio will ever do anything that even remotely resembles one of Bezzi's proposals.

 

PS: where it to actually be released, and should I be in a position to consider buying such a thing, I would be very tempted.

Edited November 13 by audiomick

[activpop]

Thanks for the explanation. The text I saw with the pic was all in Italian, so I didn't have a clue. But having the MG logo had me wondering.

[activpop]

It looks about as light as you can make a Guzzi.

[audiomick]

19 minutes ago, activpop said:

It looks about as light as you can make a Guzzi.

Indeed. I'm sure, if it ever became reality, it would be a lovely toy.

[docc]

Seems that, if Piaggio is going to cover the popular market segments with a family of V100 models, it has now completed two of the big three: an all-arounder/"sport-tourer"/travel model (V100 Mandello) and the requisite Adventure bike (V100 Stelvio).

Is a V100 Audace (cruiser) next? I cringe . . .

Don't get me wrong, I think that 1400 Audace is a really cool cruiser. In the cruiser world, it is a performance giant with a big attitude. I just hope that is not where the next V100 in the family is headed . . .

Yet, Dave Richardson said this on a GrisoGhetto post about the V100 to emphasize that what we existing, even devout, Guzzisti are looking for will not sustain the company going forward:

(Richardson): I remember being at the Guzzi factory in 2001 for the 80th anniversary and talking with their marketing manager. He said to me, “You see these people here,” referring to the vast crowd of Guzzisti in attendance. “These people will not save us.”

[Thanks, @KINDOY2 for the link to the GrisoGhetto post!]

[activpop]

I get it. If the V100 Mandello and Stelvio don't pump the numbers up, not sure what variants will. I don't have a clue what sales numbers are. It would be interesting to see how much interest they generated. Everybody has great things to say about them, but where's the money?

[p6x]

@docc based on what I saw in Paris, the cruising bikes are mostly replaced by GSs and wannabe GSs.

In the USA, the cruiser continues to make sense.

I also noticed a lot less motorcycles than on my previous visits, and more mid-size engined ones, combined with the usual scooters, including electrics.

What has really exploded, is the use of new mobility devices, including mono wheels and E bicycles. The Parisian roadways are set to include new boundaries to the ICE powered traffic, but not only. They want to limit drive through vehicles. If you are not going to have a stop to make in that zone, then you cannot transit through it just to get somewhere else by the shortest possible way.

I mostly walked, which is also good for me. In districts like the Marais, on weekend days, there are so many pedestrians that sidewalks don't suffice.

I think adventure bikes are eating into the cruiser's market, outside the traditional biker's population. ADVs are just as comfortable, and offer more versatility than your typical cruisers. Purist will stick to cruisers, but they are not getting any younger.

[p6x]

@activpop

So many iterations of those "concept" bikes on YT, complete with robot narration.

They remain a stylistic exercice, I think.

From what I saw, the mid-capacity segment and dual sports, adventure, trail bikes, whatever you want to call them seems to be where the focus is being given.

And the Chinese companies are the one really coming strong, such as CF Moto, Voge and many others.

I continue to think Piaggio has to give a 400cc 500cc V twin to Guzzi.

[audiomick]

23 hours ago, docc said:

 that 1400 Audace

@docc the picture in your post was called MGX-21 Flying Fortress here, or at least something very like the picture. It looked like this, I believe. I've never seen one

https://www.1000ps.de/testbericht-3002519-moto-guzzi-mgx-21-flying-fortress-test-2016-mit-video

The "Audace" tag went on this one. I know someone from the German forum who has one. It is a fat bike, but that is appropriate for the rider....

 

Was the thing with the "Batman" Fairing called "Audace" in the USA, or was there an error in translation?

@p6x

12 hours ago, p6x said:

I continue to think Piaggio has to give a 400cc 500cc V twin to Guzzi.

I reckon you're right there, and I personally would love to see that happen.

[docc]

27 minutes ago, audiomick said:

@docc the picture in your post was called MGX-21 Flying Fortress here . . .

Was the thing with the "Batman" Fairing called "Audace" in the USA, or was there an error in translation?

That's just me not giving a  . . . er, not following those models very closely.

[KINDOY2]

2 hours ago, docc said:

That's just me not giving a  . . . er, not following those models very closely.

I wouldnt buy one but a good friend of mine has one, I went and picked up with him when he bought it..it does look very well made, He is a big guy .6'4" 250 so the bike suits him..He is a doctor and does medical student lectures all over Northern California in a 200 mile radius and rides the MGX-21   to most of them...kind of perfect bike for that kind of thing really.  Allows him to get some riding in a busy schedule and still, not arrive feeling and looking like he just came off the track.

[p6x]

15 hours ago, audiomick said:

The "Audace" tag went on this one. I know someone from the German forum who has one.

How do you backup such a monster? I know it is low on the ground; still the engine make the bike top heavy. Was there a reverse like on the modern heavy motorcycles?

[p6x]

15 hours ago, audiomick said:

The "Audace" tag went on this one.

I think "Audace" is what you need to drive such a truck looking bike....

[p6x]

12 hours ago, KINDOY2 said:

MGX-21

I could probably get one, there is some red about it...