Shutting off at speed after 20 miles

[gstallons]

I will have to compare (when I get time today) the factory diagram to Kiwi_Roy's diagram and say yes .

[docc]

20 minutes ago, gstallons said:

I will have to compare (when I get time today) the factory diagram to Kiwi_Roy's diagram and say yes .

Notice that with KOEO, Neutral Light on -> remove Neutral (#3/middle/"sidestand") Relay -> Neutral Light stays on.

[gstallons]

Right now I have my hands full of a Polaris 4 wheeler and I will see about this tonight . 

 Mea culpa , maybe ?

[docc]

10 minutes ago, gstallons said:

Right now I have my hands full of a Polaris 4 wheeler and I will see about this tonight . 

 Mea culpa , maybe ?

There are a couple curiosities between the  relays and the warning lights.

The fact that the Neutral Light will stay on without the middle Neutral/"sidestand" Relay even plugged in says the light activates from the switch and is no indication of the function of the relay.

Conversely, Relay #2/ "Headlight Relay" serves many functions, one of which is the charging reference. A failed Relay #2 will defeat the charging system, yet the "Battery Light" on the early V11 will not light for the failed relay. (Later V11 with left and right turn signal indicators do not have a battery/charging warning light.)

[gstallons]

https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=11659

[gstallons]

Well , I found this by searching "test point layout" and found it in a 2010 post of Kiwi_Roy's diagram . As you can tell I put it up here and nothing happens ! Anyone else want to improve and open this go ahead on !

[gstallons]

As you can tell I am better than (I hope) a chimpanzee !

[docc]

Studying that Test Point Layout, I am trying to discern if it is the early V11 wiring harness, or the later. They differ.

Some aspects of that diagram differ from the wiring diagrams and may be "approximations" for expediency of the Test Point exercise.

[MotoKnee]

5 hours ago, docc said:

There are a couple curiosities between the  relays and the warning lights.

The fact that the Neutral Light will stay on without the middle Neutral/"sidestand" Relay even plugged in says the light activates from the switch and is no indication of the function of the relay.

Conversely, Relay #2/ "Headlight Relay" serves many functions, one of which is the charging reference. A failed Relay #2 will defeat the charging system, yet the "Battery Light" on the early V11 will not light for the failed relay. (Later V11 with left and right turn signal indicators do not have a battery/charging warning light.)

I drew up the first diagram to help me understand my own bike, the second to follow what's being discussed in these threads. Both are based on Carl A schematics.

I find them helpful, others may not.

 

[gstallons]

According to these diagrams , the N light will work with or w/o the relay because the relay's existence has nothing to do w/the light. the light has B+ any time the ign. sw. is "on" and the N switch acts as the ground to turn on the N light !

[gstallons]

Well , Ouji , have you got anything to report ?

[p6x]

4 hours ago, gstallons said:

Well , Ouji , have you got anything to report ?

Sometimes no news is good news? maybe he resolved the issue and that's why he has gone silent?

[gstallons]

Well , I would appreciate involvement . As in keeping us up to date....

[audiomick]

Yeah, me too.

[OuijiVeck]

Further info....

Did not REPLACE relays...played musical chairs. Runs 100% until complete shut off. I have not been able to reproduce "no fuel pump whirrr" at Key On (long story..) I suspect shortest route at this point is all new relays. I know all about their poor history though the ones in it are the GOOD CHINESE ones. How unintuitive can you get??🤣 Still wondering WHY 7.5v at spliced wires. Need to look at wiring diagram I guess. From all my years on Guzzis I know this is something stupid. You do too I'm sure. 

Just want to give you all a shout out.  Thanks so much. I even broke down and sent Japp a couple looong over due bucks. 🤪 Thanks all.