p6x Posted Sunday at 04:19 PM Posted Sunday at 04:19 PM Kawasaki Z650: 45,000 units sold Honda Rebel 1100: 40,000 units sold BMW 1250 GS: 33,000 units sold Yamaha MT 07: 30,000 units sold Harley Davidson Sporster S: 25,000 units sold Honda CB 500X: 22,000 units sold Indian Scout Bobber: 20,000 units sold Suzuki VStrom 650: 18,000 units sold KTM 390 Duke: 15,000 units sold Triumph T-120 Bonneville: 11,000 units sold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDY6yr09_I&t=337s This guy needs to learn how to say "Bonneville"... I do not know where the guy gets its figures, but I am not surprised seeing the BMW 1250 GS among the top. That same model is also at the top in France for 2024. We also find the same Yamaha MT 07, and the Honda CB 500 F. To put the numbers in perspective, just in France, there are about 10,000 Motorcycles and Scooters sold per month. From March till July, the number jumps to 20,000 Motorcycles and Scooters sold per month. At the end of October 2024, there were 171,633 M+S units sold in France. Compared to 259,000 in the USA according to the author of that video. Obviously, the author only gives the numbers for the 10 most sold motorcycles. 1
audiomick Posted Sunday at 11:44 PM Posted Sunday at 11:44 PM 7 hours ago, p6x said: This guy needs to learn how to say "Bonneville".. Indeed, and that this thing "Z" is a "Zed", and not a "Zee". On top of that, how is it that someone who is convinced that his opinion is worth making a Video for posterity (in as much as one can consider You Tube as such...) doesn't take the time to read the instruction manual of his microphone and find out where the front is, i.e. which side should be pointing at his mouth. That bloke got it wrong. Fail on all counts. 2 1
billgreenman1 Posted Monday at 05:54 AM Posted Monday at 05:54 AM (edited) Not going to watch the video, but I'm kinda surprised about the Kawi. That model seemed stupidity overpriced in my neck of the woods (Indiana), and they didn't seem to budge until the season was over...Same thing with its bigger sister. Could have scored a BMW F900R for 2k less.... Edited Monday at 05:55 AM by billgreenman1 Spell check 1
po18guy Posted Monday at 09:52 AM Posted Monday at 09:52 AM 17 hours ago, p6x said: Kawasaki Z650: 45,000 units sold Honda Rebel 1100: 40,000 units sold BMW 1250 GS: 33,000 units sold Yamaha MT 07: 30,000 units sold Harley Davidson Sporster S: 25,000 units sold Honda CB 500X: 22,000 units sold Indian Scout Bobber: 20,000 units sold Suzuki VStrom 650: 18,000 units sold KTM 390 Duke: 15,000 units sold Triumph T-120 Bonneville: 11,000 units sold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDY6yr09_I&t=337s T There are a lot of average people out there. My psychiatrist has assured me that I need never fear that... 1 2
gstallons Posted Monday at 01:08 PM Posted Monday at 01:08 PM 20 hours ago, p6x said: Kawasaki Z650: 45,000 units sold Honda Rebel 1100: 40,000 units sold BMW 1250 GS: 33,000 units sold Yamaha MT 07: 30,000 units sold Harley Davidson Sporster S: 25,000 units sold Honda CB 500X: 22,000 units sold Indian Scout Bobber: 20,000 units sold Suzuki VStrom 650: 18,000 units sold KTM 390 Duke: 15,000 units sold Triumph T-120 Bonneville: 11,000 units sold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDY6yr09_I&t=337s This guy needs to learn how to say "Bonneville"... I do not know where the guy gets its figures, but I am not surprised seeing the BMW 1250 GS among the top. That same model is also at the top in France for 2024. We also find the same Yamaha MT 07, and the Honda CB 500 F. To put the numbers in perspective, just in France, there are about 10,000 Motorcycles and Scooters sold per month. From March till July, the number jumps to 20,000 Motorcycles and Scooters sold per month. At the end of October 2024, there were 171,633 M+S units sold in France. Compared to 259,000 in the USA according to the author of that video. Obviously, the author only gives the numbers for the 10 most sold motorcycles. # 1 I am sure this boy doesn't know what Bonneville refers to so I can understand why he would mispronounce the word # 2 he is reporting sales records for the year and giving compliments to each bike . This is strictly opinion on his part . # 3 I will have to watch again to listen for the Z 1
p6x Posted Monday at 02:11 PM Author Posted Monday at 02:11 PM 14 hours ago, audiomick said: Indeed, and that this thing "Z" is a "Zed", and not a "Zee". On top of that, how is it that someone who is convinced that his opinion is worth making a Video for posterity (in as much as one can consider You Tube as such...) doesn't take the time to read the instruction manual of his microphone and find out where the front is, i.e. which side should be pointing at his mouth. That bloke got it wrong. Fail on all counts. I think most of those YouTubers are trying to make a buck or two. I did not watch his video past the "Bonneville"; that did it for me. After that I scrubbed through to get the classification. I don't know where he got his numbers, but as I said, they make sense since they more or less tally with the orientation of the market. But he is not the worse; what I really can't stand, are those that do motorcycle reviews with their camera attached to their helmets. They produced a video full of jerky head movements. They probably never even watch what they upload. 1
p6x Posted Monday at 02:21 PM Author Posted Monday at 02:21 PM 8 hours ago, billgreenman1 said: Not going to watch the video, but I'm kinda surprised about the Kawi. That model seemed stupidity overpriced in my neck of the woods (Indiana), and they didn't seem to budge until the season was over...Same thing with its bigger sister. Could have scored a BMW F900R for 2k less.... This is the reason I did not embed it. It is not worth your while watching it. I extracted the data. For the Kawa 650 Z, I don't know. To me, most of the motorcycles they sell today are overpriced. I think that the Japanese still manufacture their bikes in Japan, while many other top brands get theirs done in Asia. The BMW F900R engine is made by Loncin in China, and the bike is assembled in Germany. None of the Triumph motorcycles we get in the USA are made in UK... not that it changes anything in the QA/QC. 1
billgreenman1 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Straying slightly from the topic, I recall from some kind of click-bait, that overall, sales and registration of motorcycles in the U.S. have declined & there are fewer new riders coming up from "the youths". Even considering the shaky economy and the deadly increase of mindless 4-wheel cages on the roads, there seems to me less interest in motorcycles and riding and it even felt that way strolling into dealerships. I know that I'm probably not their target demo, but even observing other customers I didn't get that vibe of adventure romance and excitement that existed even 5 or 6 years ago. Maybe it is just me getting older and more cynical, but I feel like motorcycling and even motor sports in general really are on the path to eventual extinction, soon to be seen more in videos, game simulations, and glam commercials than in real life. "The kids riding in Mom's 'Musk-blob' hear a growl outside their windows. Looking up from their screens they see a man dressed kinda like an astronaut filtering by on a vibrating 2 wheeled beast. One asks 'What's that Mommy?' She just sighs 'The past'. The others don't even look up, their eyes locked up in their games. The auto pilot clicks and moves on..." 2
Scud Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, billgreenman1 said: Straying slightly from the topic, ... overall, sales and registration of motorcycles in the U.S. have declined & there are fewer new riders coming up from "the youths". I wonder if we might see a resurgence in interest as kids who are now commuting to school on electric bicycles find out what a pain in the ass it is to deal with car parking lots and (at least in California) having to wait in line at traffic signals instead of filtering to the front. And they would be primed for electric street-legal motorcycle ownership. nine best electric motorcycles... https://gearjunkie.com/motors/best-electric-motorcycles Maybe one of these will become a best-selling motorcycle someday. It won't be the tailor-made Italian Volt at the end of the list... but that is a cool bike. 1
guzzler Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, billgreenman1 said: Straying slightly from the topic, I recall from some kind of click-bait, that overall, sales and registration of motorcycles in the U.S. have declined & there are fewer new riders coming up from "the youths". Even considering the shaky economy and the deadly increase of mindless 4-wheel cages on the roads, there seems to me less interest in motorcycles and riding and it even felt that way strolling into dealerships. I know that I'm probably not their target demo, but even observing other customers I didn't get that vibe of adventure romance and excitement that existed even 5 or 6 years ago. Maybe it is just me getting older and more cynical, but I feel like motorcycling and even motor sports in general really are on the path to eventual extinction, soon to be seen more in videos, game simulations, and glam commercials than in real life. "The kids riding in Mom's 'Musk-blob' hear a growl outside their windows. Looking up from their screens they see a man dressed kinda like an astronaut filtering by on a vibrating 2 wheeled beast. One asks 'What's that Mommy?' She just sighs 'The past'. The others don't even look up, their eyes locked up in their games. The auto pilot clicks and moves on..." I remember back in the 70-80's if you pulled up behind a car ( just waiting to overtake ) all the kids in the back seat would be turned around to watch and wave at you till you shot past them. That don't happen anymore! Yeah, well before they all had electronic distractions! Cheers 1
po18guy Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago On 12/16/2024 at 5:03 AM, gstallons said: Are you above or below "average" ? Well, my shirt size is "extra medium". 2 1
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