Moto Guzzi Daytona at MPH (Houston) to be prepped up for sale by owner.

[pete roper]

I had a customer a couple of decades ago who had imported a CX1000 (?), the American market MkII LeMans with the SP1000 motor. It had the speedo with a light that came on at 55 and amazingly it still worked! So a light was a *Thing* at least on some bikes. Very odd. I would of disabled the irritating thing immediately but he’d grown quite fond of it.

 

 

[Tomchri]

1995 1100Sport carb edt 28k.
1996 1100Sport inj edt 96km.
Only 8k rpm.
Whatever they had on the shelves.
Cheers Tom.

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[Pressureangle]

15 hours ago, Tomchri said:

1995 1100Sport carb edt 28k.
1996 1100Sport inj edt 96km.
Only 8k rpm.
Whatever they had on the shelves.
Cheers Tom.

Sent fra min SM-S906B via Tapatalk
 

The original tacho on my '97 also had 8k redline.

[Pressureangle]

Not starting any arguments, but I want to know about 55mph speed indicators. Who has seen any? Pete, on a CX- I'm thinking it was a Euro standard that they simply adjusted for the USA. I've never seen such on anything, and I started working on American cars and motorcycles professionally in 1978. Never heard of it, never seen it. 
I need to know if there's a gap that big in my knowledge (despite it being a pedantic trivia)

Who's holding?

[pete roper]

I’m out. I’ve shared the sum total of my knowledge.

[GuzziMoto]

Here is a video about it. It is six and a half minutes long. The video shows examples, some of which light up at 55. I do not think they all had to light up, but as I lived through that time period I do recall at least one car I owned had a light at 55. Other cars I have owned simply had a fuel efficiency light to tell you when you were being more fuel efficient, often related to engine rpm.

The video also points out that for a while the US had 85 mph speedos, where 55 was highlighted but 85 was the highest number they could show. The rule about highlighting 55 was over in the early 80's, but many manufacturers continued to do so for many more years even though it was no longer a requirement.

[Pressureangle]

1 hour ago, GuzziMoto said:

Here is a video about it. It is six and a half minutes long. The video shows examples, some of which light up at 55. I do not think they all had to light up, but as I lived through that time period I do recall at least one car I owned had a light at 55. Other cars I have owned simply had a fuel efficiency light to tell you when you were being more fuel efficient, often related to engine rpm.

The video also points out that for a while the US had 85 mph speedos, where 55 was highlighted but 85 was the highest number they could show. The rule about highlighting 55 was over in the early 80's, but many manufacturers continued to do so for many more years even though it was no longer a requirement.

I didn't see any illumination nor reference to that, specifically. Everything had 55mph highlighted in some way, but I'm looking for an actual lamp.
iirc there was no National legislation, rather the NHTSA under Janet Reno and at the behest of the Insurance industry, pulled Federal highway funds as a method of enforcement among the States. 

[GuzziMoto]

1 hour ago, Pressureangle said:

I didn't see any illumination nor reference to that, specifically. Everything had 55mph highlighted in some way, but I'm looking for an actual lamp.
iirc there was no National legislation, rather the NHTSA under Janet Reno and at the behest of the Insurance industry, pulled Federal highway funds as a method of enforcement among the States. 

At 33 seconds in he shows a speedo that lights up at 55 mph. But you are correct, lighting up was not required.

 

Edited Thursday at 06:16 PM by GuzziMoto

[guzzler]

I remember back in the 70's in NZ we had an 80 kph ( 50 mph ) national speed limit due to the gas crisis ( down from 100 kph ) and heard about the 55mph in the USA.

Also remember thinking gee 50 mph in a country the size of the USA would be a pain in the freckle! 

It wasn't a huge deal in NZ especially the Sth Island given the er twisty nature of our roads, except the boring straight bits on the Canterbury plains esp ChCh to Timaru. Even that wasn't too bad as only a short distance ( felt huge to us at the time though ) and given I was riding a 250 dirt bike and driving a '52 Morris Oxford, speed was an alien concept!

Cheers 

 

[Pressureangle]

2 hours ago, GuzziMoto said:

At 33 seconds in he shows a speedo that lights up at 55 mph. But you are correct, lighting up was not required.

 

Ah, that's not lit, it's just painted red. Common enough.

[Pressureangle]

48 minutes ago, guzzler said:

I remember back in the 70's in NZ we had an 80 kph ( 50 mph ) national speed limit due to the gas crisis ( down from 100 kph ) and heard about the 55mph in the USA.

Also remember thinking gee 50 mph in a country the size of the USA would be a pain in the freckle! 

It wasn't a huge deal in NZ especially the Sth Island given the er twisty nature of our roads, except the boring straight bits on the Canterbury plains esp ChCh to Timaru. Even that wasn't too bad as only a short distance ( felt huge to us at the time though ) and given I was riding a 250 dirt bike and driving a '52 Morris Oxford, speed was an alien concept!

Cheers 

 

It was enormously disruptive to everything from vacations to OTR trucking. I consider this the first wave of Political domination, the most recent being Covid. Trial Compliance. It failed then, it fails now, and their failures are assured to continue as long as the 2nd Amendment stands. 
Off my soapbox though, a friend and I took a round-the-country trip in 1979, during the 55mph days. Very few States enforced it, even Ohio let you have ~62mph. The two of us 18 year olds picked up a German couple a little older than us at a crossroads in New Mexico in August when the temperature was so high that it was cooler to keep the windows closed in the non-airconditioned 1976 Oldsmobile than to let the hot wind blow in. They were standing in the sun at an I-10 exit, 2 miles from the nearest water and nearly dead. They had come to vacation and tour the USA, but the family that they came to ride along with had a Dad that adhered strictly to 55mph since Cleveland, despite traffic passing them everywhere, so they bailed out in California and hitchhiked. We set the cooler between them in the backseat, filled it with Stroh's and headed off across Texas at 80mph, hardly keeping up. 

[footgoose]

38 minutes ago, Pressureangle said:

We set the cooler between them in the backseat, filled it with Stroh's and headed off across Texas at 80mph, hardly keeping up. 

the stuff movies are made of

[p6x]

Went back today, and got a few more facts:

The Speedometer/Odometer is clearly showing Veglia Borletti; Possibly black faced so it would not be confused with a metric one, on the assembly line? were those Daytona equipped with Koni rear shock?

This Daytona is from 1993; The current owner purchased it used, and never rode it. This is why there is no registration.

The bike came to MPH because they could not get it started. Davey explained that someone replaced the fuel pump (Weber Marelli), but reinstalling the fuel hoses, they managed to block the fuel flow, and after multiple attempts to start it, they burned the fuel pump.

Davey has replaced the fuel pump, and is replacing all the fuel lines. The bike starts immediately now.

Davey said that the owner has not requested to replace the distribution belt. The bike only has 8+k miles, but chances are, the belt is the one installed in 1993, 31 years ago, soon 32. He said the owner only wants to spend minimum amount of money since he wants to sell it. I don't know you guys, but personally, if I wanted to sell a motorcycle that has not run for a while, I would make sure I am in a position to confirm everything has been checked.

Edited Thursday at 11:28 PM by p6x

[footgoose]

What with low miles, and the seller apparently motivated to sell, And a top Guzzi guy knowing what is needed to bring her up to reasonable standards, this is looking more like a real find for someone wanting to add a bike or replace a 'long in the tooth' bike. How often does one see a classic come up 'word of mouth'? If I were not so long in the tooth, I might be westward bound.

[docc]

I know EXACTLY where I would put that Daytona in our living room.

If my wife were not so taken with all this stuff people call "furniture" . . .