Dealerships and Repair Shops Won’t Work on Bikes over 15 Years Old 😳

[p6x]

1 hour ago, Pressureangle said:

And as far as EV replacing ICE, that won't happen "...until the Saudis say it will" - (Dan Pena). 

European lawmakers have written into law that in 2035, no more ICE powered vehicles could be sold new. They have obviously not taken into consideration that many people cannot afford to purchase an EV at today's price, and today's charging infrastructure considering the chargning times.

In France, many people live in appartments, have no garage. Unless they have the ability to find a charger at each and every parking spot, there is no easy solution.

They are talking about Solid State batteries to replace Lithium Ion ones, that would reduce the charging time.

There is another factor that is not discussed;

EVs are like computers when general public started to be able to purchase their own. The technology is evolving quickly, making your 2 years old EV already obsolete; still useable. This clearly affect the pre-owned EV market. ICE cars have evolved too, but my 2000 911 is still in perfect running conditions, and spares still plentiful.

Will a 25 year old EV even be operational, including swapping the battery if required?

I had an issue with a two year old computer; the specialist said the mother board needed to be replaced, because it could not be fixed. But that motherboard is no longer available, and it would cost more than purchasing a new computer....

[Pressureangle]

1 hour ago, p6x said:

European lawmakers have written into law that in 2035, no more ICE powered vehicles could be sold new. They have obviously not taken into consideration that many people cannot afford to purchase an EV at today's price, and today's charging infrastructure considering the chargning times.

In France, many people live in appartments, have no garage. Unless they have the ability to find a charger at each and every parking spot, there is no easy solution.

They are talking about Solid State batteries to replace Lithium Ion ones, that would reduce the charging time.

There is another factor that is not discussed;

EVs are like computers when general public started to be able to purchase their own. The technology is evolving quickly, making your 2 years old EV already obsolete; still useable. This clearly affect the pre-owned EV market. ICE cars have evolved too, but my 2000 911 is still in perfect running conditions, and spares still plentiful.

Will a 25 year old EV even be operational, including swapping the battery if required?

I had an issue with a two year old computer; the specialist said the mother board needed to be replaced, because it could not be fixed. But that motherboard is no longer available, and it would cost more than purchasing a new computer....

My observation about such legislation is that the reasons it is enacted so far out in the future are;

Leverage *towards* a direction, but a removable/modifiable End State;

Refundable over time, due to the passage of time and short memory of people- that is to say that in ten years the then current administration can make any claim about the original intent or timeline that they wish in the service of current goals. 

In short, it's all Bu**S**t and I have zero confidence that the End State of no new ICE sales will come to pass by 2035.

If the Apophis asteroid doesn't send new car sales back to the Stone Age altogether.

[gstallons]

5 hours ago, Admin Jaap said:

Tell us how you really feel, Pete! 

You know Pete , he's so non-confrontational .....

[gstallons]

Back on topic : I can't understand why a bike dealership would not cater to older (15 yr +) bikes . You would at least get the owner/bike to the shop and then decide if you want to proceed. A lot of shops want 50% down of the repair estimate before starting . I know some shops that ended up broke and had a hop full of bikes left there because the owners would not pick them up.  

It seems like facilities only go for fast $$$ and no worries about customer retention or a good reputation . Also you get "advice" from the Company on how to handle YOUR business or at least you thought it was your business .

[gstallons]

I was telling Twin AH about a MG dealer Joe Eish from Salineville , Ohio who is long gone . When you ordered from Joe or Ida , you would get the parts in a tore up Tide washing powder box wrapped in masking tape along w/a old grocery store ticket along w/your MGNOC discount . Then you would mail them a check  .  They were magnificent people !