p6x Posted January 8 Posted January 8 As usual, if you watch using a YouTube app., you should be able to enable the automatic translation into English. He is extatic about the new automated braking system, which leaves the rear brake slightly applied after you release the front brake. He says it is really nice and working perfectly.
Weegie Posted January 8 Posted January 8 If the rear brake was anything like the one on my 1098 I'm surprised he was able to notice The standing joke UK Ducati Forum was the rear pads were guaranteed for life 3
audiomick Posted January 8 Posted January 8 6 hours ago, p6x said: ...leaves the rear brake slightly applied after you release the front brake. He says it is really nice and working perfectly. I can see that working. I believe I tend to do that with my right foot.
p6x Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 20 minutes ago, audiomick said: I can see that working. I believe I tend to do that with my right foot. I believe the Ducati Riding Software package is able to do it better than you, from what I understood. They have ported the experience gathered from MotoGP as a pilotage driver assist. Therefore, the system uses all the sensor's input to actually dose the brake pressure, and release it at the most efficient time. In the video, he said that the testers have ridden the Panigale S with a lot of the sensors directly from GP bikes to perfect the system. Maybe somebody that will get one could give us an educated opinion? 1
audiomick Posted January 8 Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, p6x said: I believe the Ducati Riding Software package is able to do it better than you, from what I understood. Quite possibly, although one must take into account that the manufacturer will always claim that his invention is better than what one can do oneself. Whatever, I don't expect to have 24 Grand in any currency to give away on a whim, so I'll probably have to continue to rely on my right foot. 1
p6x Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 55 minutes ago, audiomick said: Quite possibly, although one must take into account that the manufacturer will always claim that his invention is better than what one can do oneself. Whatever, I don't expect to have 24 Grand in any currency to give away on a whim, so I'll probably have to continue to rely on my right foot. Same here... but given Ducati's performance in MotoGP, I would expect their software to be very capable. Now, I am happy with my older Guzzi with no sofisticated riding help. At least, I am the only one in control!! As for prices, at the last Toy Drive I rode, all those Harley owners could not believe I paid 2000 Dollars for the Quota. One of them told me his Harley cost him 40k dollars... that's 20 Moto Guzzi Quota or so.... 1
audiomick Posted January 8 Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, p6x said: ... given Ducati's performance in MotoGP, I would expect their software to be very capable.... No doubt. But I'm right with you on the rest of the post too.
Lucky Phil Posted January 9 Posted January 9 I've been using the back brake on motorcycles for 2 things only for 30 years. Holding the bike on a hill at a stop sign or lights and applying it mid corner mainly on the track to get the bike to "finish off" the corner and hold the line better esp if I've missed the correct apex and look a bit wide on the exit. The second technique can also be used on the road if you mess up a corner and braking with the front causes the bike to stand up. Never used it to help turn in but I understand the concept of increasing the rear tyre slip angle to help the wide rear tyre turn in better. WSB and MotoGP riders use the rear heavily for turning the bike so the Ducati software has come from there obviously. Phil 1
gstallons Posted January 9 Posted January 9 11 hours ago, p6x said: Same here... but given Ducati's performance in MotoGP, I would expect their software to be very capable. Now, I am happy with my older Guzzi with no sofisticated riding help. At least, I am the only one in control!! As for prices, at the last Toy Drive I rode, all those Harley owners could not believe I paid 2000 Dollars for the Quota. One of them told me his Harley cost him 40k dollars... that's 20 Moto Guzzi Quota or so.... You paid $2k for the Quota ?????????
p6x Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 1 hour ago, gstallons said: You paid $2k for the Quota ????????? Yes I did. But nothing out of the ordinary. I had been on the lookout for a Quota since early 2023, mainly looking for my favorite color which I am not going to ask you to guess. All the Quota that I saw for sale in the USA were around the $3k mark. When I got to Peoria to check the bike, the seller said he had attempted to set the tires at pressure, but in the process, the rear tube developed a leak at the valve. So I could not ride the bike, and had to purchase it blind. I later found the tachometer was really imprecise, the pointer jumping back and forth, which is something common for the white face Veglia of this era. Something about a floating ground inside the instrument. When you add the tires, the cost of sending the instruments to Germany for rejuvenation, the cost of substituting the collapsed turn indicator stems (the seller had stealthily wraped them in chaterton), then the actual possession went to 3k. But I still feel that it was a bargain. 1
gstallons Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Mmmm . OK ! as long as you are HAPPY. Peoria Ill ? Floating ( I know what that is) ground ? No one in the States could correct this ?
p6x Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 (edited) 22 hours ago, gstallons said: Peoria Arizona. 22 hours ago, gstallons said: No one in the States could correct this Before I picked this guy in Germany, I asked around, and there is more to it. The "Casa di Moto" German outfit not only fixed the jerky pointer of the tachometer, but he also got the pointers shiny too. I found someone in the US doing it before I elected Casa di Moto, but someone here chimed in saying they did a very sketchy job on his own Veglia instruments. So common sense; would you trust a European based shop who said he fixes those problems often, or a US based one who probably does it once every three years? The problem was not so much the fix, but the clean way to open the gauge. I have a little experience when I opened my ITI to look at the odometer. Better leave it to those who have the proper tools to operate... Edited January 10 by p6x 1
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