Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...

[billgreenman1]

A little straying from the conversation, but it is-3F right now and I walk into my local watering hole (they see me in the summer on my bike not drinking),and they ask "are you on the bike tonight?"

And attempt at humor I'm sure, but after 14 bazillionth time I'm like;

"Yep ".

[Bill Hagan]

11 hours ago, p6x said:

My school was situated on the other side of Montmartre from where I lived. So I did have to walk uphill both ways. I walked uphill up to the tip, and downhill then. But to come back, I had to walk uphill again. You could have walked around if you had wanted to, but it was longer.

I did not catch the underlying meaning for that reason.

We are even … you got me with the “up & over hill!” 

Bill

[GuzziMoto]

Currently I have a set of Michelin tires on our car that are basically snow tires that are year round rated. They carry the three peak snowflake rating for snow, so they would qualify as snow tires. But they don't need to be removed when it warms up. They look like something you would see on a WRC racecar. They work well in the snow, especially considering what they are on. Our Jeep has off road oriented tires, they do well enough in the snow but not as well as the Michelins. We used to run a set of snow tires during the winter on our car, our Smart car had a set of snows for the winter, and our Mazda MP3 had a set of snows for the winter. But these new Michelins solve that issue and allow us to not have two sets of tires.

[Kevin_T]

I haven't been following the weather as this is typical for Michigan. I would say for people down south who might not have as much insulation in their home. If your getting sub zero temps for more than a couple days you need to run your faucets every once and a while to keep your pipes from freezing.

[p6x]

2 hours ago, Bill Hagan said:

We are even … you got me with the “up & over hill!” 

Bill

Also, remember that my native language was not English, and I am in the winter part of my life. I learned English in UK, during summer vacations; I always took it as a punishment since I was the only kid spending two months in miserable weather while all my friends were at the seashore in France. In my school days, we did not have English classes.

My father always thought that in future, speaking English would be important. He was my Jules Verne... lol... he was in WWII, so I am guessing he had had to deal with multiple languages. Actually he spoke fluent Russian and German, strangely, no English.

However, I discovered that learning UK English with British or Scottish accent did not prepare me well for working mainly with people from Louisiana or Texas, who I had a very hard time to understand. I remember that on my first job, on a rig named "The Texas Star", the company representative was from deep Louisiana, I asked what language he was speaking to me...

If you combine the misinterpretation that always occur when you type, because you know what you mean, but you need to pass it on to the reader, and if your reader comes from a different world, he may not get the subtleties.

So, Quiproquo...

Edited 4 hours ago by p6x

[p6x]

1 hour ago, GuzziMoto said:

Currently I have a set of Michelin tires on our car that are basically snow tires that are year round rated.

As long as you are aware of their limitations, if you use them all year round.

Edited 4 hours ago by p6x

[GuzziMoto]

13 minutes ago, p6x said:

As long as you are aware of their limitations, if you use them all year round.

They work really well all year round. They ride quietly, they offer good grip in the wet, they grip normally in the dry, and work well summer time or winter. I am sure your charts are saying something, but my experience with them is they are better than the original tires and better then the set I bought to replace the original tires when I got a nasty gash in the sidewall of one of the original tires. And unlike either of the first two sets of tires, these work pretty well in the snow. They are not full on snow tires, but they are pretty close.

Edited 3 hours ago by GuzziMoto

[p6x]

1 hour ago, GuzziMoto said:

They work really well all year round. They ride quietly, they offer good grip in the wet, they grip normally in the dry, and work well summer time or winter. I am sure your charts are saying something, but my experience with them is they are better than the original tires and better then the set I bought to replace the original tires when I got a nasty gash in the sidewall of one of the original tires. And unlike either of the first two sets of tires, these work pretty well in the snow. They are not full on snow tires, but they are pretty close.

You are more certainly correct.

My experience with snow tires is a bit dated now. When I was in France, I was going to the ski stations for the winter hollidays, but also every other week-end. Before we got the fast trains.

I always installed winter tires on my cars, and drove to Les Alpes. My winter tires would wear out very quickly when driving on the dry highways. Today's compounds are obviously a lot better than those in the 70's.

[GuzziMoto]

Yes, I used to be a fan of snow tires for winter driving. Even when it wasn't snowing, good snow tires just worked better in cold temps. And, as I said, these Michelins are not full on snow tires. But they work surprisingly well both during the summer in warm temps and during the winter in cold temps. It is impressive that they are able to make a tire do that. I will say that their strength in the snow is in forward grip, driving the car forwards, and not as much in stopping or side grip. They are still good at the other two, but their clear strength is driving forward in the snow. If you want more grip in the snow, go with two sets of tires and full on snow tires. Then you can have summer tires for when it isn't cold and / or snowing. A full on summer tire should deliver more dry grip and more precise handling. But as with most things, it is a compromise. It is hard to have it all. These Michelins are pretty close, though.

That said, where you live snow grip may not be important at all.