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On March 1st, @PJPR01 and I set out to get our Texas Tour flags from Bandera.

We had a rendez-vous at a café in Fayetteville. After pies and coffee, a start attempt on the Quota killed the lights, and thereafter no more power! the Quota has both side panels locked by quick 1/4 of turn screws. No tool needed to access both sides.

Checked the fuses, checked all relay properly inserted.

On the other side, moving the battery restablished power. But start attempt cut it off again.

The seat had to come off, and we needed a 13mm spanner to remove it. After checking the battery connections, the two screws holding the connections showed no gaps, but were not fully tightened. Those have a combined philips/10 mm heads.

Fortunately, a guy who witnessed the scene had a whole workshop in his truck. With one tool set imperial, the other metric!!! with the battery connections tight, everything went back to normal.

The second mishap happened shortly after one of the stops made in Hondo. Item 10 of the drawing came off item 12. The gear box was stuck in 4th.

Nylstop nut 19 requires a 10mm wrench. After loosening it with a proper 10mm combination flat wrench, the item 12 was reinserted and 19 locked again. To insert the splined axe into the gear lever 10, we used an adjustable spanner to hammer the gear shifter while holding the gear lever with another flat wrench from behind.

Note: the adjustable spanner could not untight the 10mm nut. The morse would slip the edge.

So I have established that I need a 10, 13, mm combination flat wrenches, and an aerospace metric 1/4" such as the one shown in the picture. Maybe a small hammer too...

I discovered new screw head standards that I was not aware of; did you know about: Pozidriv® screws? Resistorx® screws? it seems that those Philips, Flat, Torx, are getting old...

Now what do you have in your emergency tool kit with you at all time?

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10 and 13 wrench and allen keys 5 and 6 are definitely necessary in the toolbox.

I also like to have a filler gauge for setting the valve clearence right (although this is remarkable stable at the V11 Sport). And then you need a 11mm wrench and a something to hold the adjustment screw.

And for my friends I bring an additional emergency starter battery, a spare ignition coil, tyre repair kit an extra 18" inner tube, inner cables and mounting sockets, some extra poles for their tents, inflatable mattress repair kit and a canister to swap petrol from one tank to the other. Yeah, we always make it home. :-)

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One thing to include is a first aid kit and a tourniquet.  Gauze, big bandages and tape are more important than band aids. Bandaids are always in my wallet. This stuff hardly takes up any space and weighs almost nothing. When I pack up the Stelvio it is the last thing to go in. Stays right on top. 

Since I ride alone mostly IDK how well I could administer to myself, but I have one nonetheless. You just never know.

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Pozidriv has been around for a LONG time . Phillips ,  Reed & Prince , Pozidriv , Tri-wing and JIS (Japanese Phillips) and maybe more are all modifications of the original Phillips head pattern. The Resistorx , I think is a tamperproof Torx. You see them around bathroom stalls . There is a pin in the center of the Torx "hole" . Oh , things change all the time . A few years ago Torx Plus came out . It looks like a stripped Torx bit. By now IDK if there is something newer or not ? Trust me , they will change something EVERY 5-10 years. 

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3 hours ago, motortouring said:

also like to have a filler gauge for setting the valve clearence right (although this is remarkable stable at the V11 Sport). And then you need a 11mm wrench and a something to hold the adjustment screw.

You would adjust your valves gap during a ride?

3 hours ago, motortouring said:

I bring an additional emergency starter battery, a spare ignition coil, tyre repair kit an extra 18" inner tube, inner cables and mounting sockets

Those I would probably not consider; I had a little taste of the AMA emergency number when my V11 refused to start, and the assistance came with all the above mentionned. I know you were kidding, but my entire day was saved by the 10 and 13mm tools.

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What a great topic! :luigi: :race:

Link to a previous discussion:

 

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^wow, that was 10 years ago...

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1 hour ago, p6x said:

You would adjust your valves gap during a ride?

Those I would probably not consider; I had a little taste of the AMA emergency number when my V11 refused to start, and the assistance came with all the above mentionned. I know you were kidding, but my entire day was saved by the 10 and 13mm tools.

On the valve clearance,: Yes, it is a little thing to do in the morning with the cold engine and I only do this after I get annoyed by irregular ticking of the pushrods, it is definitely not a daily routine.

And the other part: I used to organize trips for the Guzzi Club overhere and it is not that I had all of this in my bags, but we usually had this as a group. The ignition coil helped people back on the road again, just like a spare fuel pump that some one saved from an old Subaru (it worked fine on a EV or Cali 1100ie) and inner tubes and tyre spoons. . It is actually a kind of anekdote. One of us started to run on one cylinder. We removed the side panel of this Tonti Guzzi and one ignition coil was much warmer than the other. Well, you can imagine the guy thought this would be the end of the trip for him, but down in my bag I had this spare ignition coil. Ten minutes later we were going again.

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@motortouring

I understand...

When I was doing the continental circus Grand-Prix in the 70's, we had a guy from the motoclub on an MZ 250 who literally carried every single tools required to take an engine apart on the road. Including bolt and nuts and spare chain links and every bells ans whistles for just above everything contact points and carburators.

His only interest was to save broken down bikes on the road. An early version of the road assistance I guess. His nick name was "savior". You could call him any time of day or night, and he would come to the rescue.

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My emergency tool kit:

Credit card

Debit card for my bank account

Membership card for the auto club "rescue" service.

 

Did I forget something? B)

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1 hour ago, audiomick said:

My emergency tool kit:

Credit card

Debit card for my bank account

Membership card for the auto club "rescue" service.

 

Did I forget something? B)

Yup...a 10mm wrench!  

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16 minutes ago, PJPR01 said:

Yup...a 10mm wrench!  

Yeah, ok. And a #2 Philips screwdriver, maybe. :grin:

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It really depends on the bike, doesn't it? The sport has a 4-posted nut on the front axle. 10mm wrench, and a 4" adjustable that opens to about 14mm. Tiny flat for the idle air adjustments (no, shouldn't be fooling with them) battery tire pump and plug kit. A cheap set of metric allens. Seat, tank, etc. is all allen on this one. 
Whilst rebuilding the V11 I'll have to make note about tools, but I expect it'll be a couple seasons before something falls off. 

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