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  On 3/31/2025 at 11:55 PM, audiomick said:

@Tomchri what does that wheel belong to? Looks kind of interesting... B)

 

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Coppa Italia with the Dunlop TT's.

Cheers Tom.

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  On 3/31/2025 at 11:55 PM, audiomick said:

@Tomchri what does that wheel belong to? Looks kind of interesting... B)

 

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Arrow spotted, Cummins power.

:rasta:.     Cheers Tom.

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  On 4/1/2025 at 12:04 AM, Tomchri said:

Arrow spotted, Cummins power.

:rasta:.     Cheers Tom.

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  On 4/1/2025 at 12:17 AM, audiomick said:

Ok, that's not a bad start. What is it powering?

Going by the mag wheel, I thought it might be a '70s sports car. :huh2:

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The dude is so busted . . .

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  On 3/30/2025 at 2:56 PM, activpop said:

I've got those Ti cans on my Coppa. They are called racing mufflers and seem to be the quietest pipes of all my bikes. Why is that? On my Ducatis I had Contis and they were truly a racing muffler with straight thru flow and limited baffles. What's the story with these? I always wondered what a Guzzi would sound like with Contis on it.

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All I have is Staintunes, and they are rather sonorous, mellifluous even, becoming slightly Aussie belligerent at WFO. So there ya' go.

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  On 4/1/2025 at 1:10 AM, audiomick said:

Yes, but my taste in 4 wheel vehicles is more in this direction :whistle:

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Does DeTomaso give this a Moto Guzzi connection?

(Without getting into what "351 Cleveland" means . . . B)

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  On 4/1/2025 at 12:52 AM, docc said:

Nice truck! :sun:

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It's a 96mod, bought her 97 with 8000km( 5k miles). 167000km now, (100k miles), org paint, no rust.  Not seriously souped up, 1500Nm. She will be a veteran in 26. Then back on the road a few summer trips.

Cheers Tom.

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DeTomaso was an Angentine. The Guzzi link is becoming rather tenuous. OK, all 351s are two-valve, pushrod 90 Vs - so there is that.

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  On 4/1/2025 at 1:17 AM, docc said:

Does DeTomaso give this a Moto Guzzi connection?

(Without getting into what "351 Cleveland" means . . . B)

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To the question, of course it does. B)

By the bye, is the "cleveland" designation commonly known in the USA? I'd imagine so, but don't know. "Cleveland" or "Windsor" was a subject of some discussion amongst Ford afficionados in Australia. I'm not that solid on the difference, as I was more interested in Holdens. :huh2:

For the sake of completeness, in case the whole discussion is new to anyone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine#351_Cleveland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_small_block_engine#351W

EDIT: just found this section, which brings as back to de Tomaso at the end. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine#302_and_351_Cleveland_(Australia)

  On 4/1/2025 at 10:09 PM, po18guy said:

DeTomaso was an Angentine. The Guzzi link is becoming rather tenuous.

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Ummm, no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_Guzzi#1973–2000:_De_Tomaso_years

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De Tomaso Industries Inc. (D.T.I. Group or DTI), manufacturer of the De Tomaso sports and luxury cars, owned by Argentinian industrialist Alejandro de Tomaso, purchased SEIMM (and thereby Moto Guzzi) along with Benelli and Maserati in 1973.

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The early Le Mans models, and the small-block engine and frame that is the origin of the current V7 models, were all introduced during the de Tomaso years. ;)

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Thanks for the clarification on the "deTomaso years" (1973- 1996).  The origins of the SpineFrame, and the Dr. John Wittner connection, are anchored there.  :mg:

As for Ford small blocks, the "Cleveland", as opposed to the "Windsor" had unique heads with the valves aimed toward one another in a "pent roof" combustion chamber allowing for some high compression and "heavy breathing" ports and cam.  The Pantera all sported this motor in the mid-engine configuration. The Cleveland makes a unique, and sonorous, exhaust note while producing admirable torque.

My first car was a 1970 Cougar Eliminator whose 351C made ("reported") 300 horsepower and 380 ft-pds of torque. A formula for short tire life. And frequent court dates. :huh:

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