2000 V11 rear sub frame

[Paul57]

Hi all newbie here, I had a low speed fall a few months back breaking my toes and knee cap.  My toes broke the gear lever which I’ve replaced 👍 

my question really is the rear subframe slightly set more to the right as you look from behind the bike ? 
looking at the workshop manual it does look that way.  I’ve got new exhaust foot peg hanger for the left side as well as a new subframe if needed. The foot peg bracket looks straight and the mounting points also look to be ok and not bent.

[gstallons]

Please define "subframe" ? Swingarm , rear tail section , etc.  ? 

[Paul57]

Sorry, tail section

[gstallons]

Ok ! If it looks bent , it probably is bent . take your tape measure and measure and start looking. Verify 1

[Paul57]

Yeah, that’s my plan 👍cheers

[docc]

The frame dimensions are shown in dimensional drawings in the workshop manual. Unfortunately, I'm not near mine right now. 
 

Welcome, @Paul57!

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[Pressureangle]

Mine's apart but with the trans and swingarm out; it appears that the subframe is symmetrical along the frame spine axis. 

[docc]

I see from the frame diagrams in the Workshop Manual that the rear tail section support subframe is very slightly asymmetric, i.e. 1.0 cm offset.

[Pressureangle]

1 hour ago, docc said:

I see from the frame diagrams in the Workshop Manual that the rear tail section support subframe is very slightly asymmetric, i.e. 1.0 cm offset.

Mine still has the little plastic bit under the end of it attached, I'll see tomorrow about removing it and trying to get an accurate measure to some meaningful points, or a clearer eye view at least. 

[GuzziMoto]

As I recall the motor is offset like 10 mm in the frame to allow for the width of the rear tire. When Guzzi moved to a wider rear tire with the shaft drive setup they moved the entire engine and trans over to make room for the wider wire instead of offsetting the output of the trans so the drive shaft would clear the wider rear tire. It was easier to do that then redesign the trans. This makes the two mufflers a little wonky, as each connects to the motor (the motor that is now 10 mm off to one side) and that means that one head pipe is in front of the other slightly as well as they are both off center side to side. But in my opinion the rear subframe itself should be centered with the chassis spine frame and centered with the rear tire. Just not exactly centered with the exhaust.

[audiomick]

3 hours ago, GuzziMoto said:

As I recall the motor is offset like 10 mm in the frame to allow for the width of the rear tire....

I thought that only applied to the Sport 1100 and Daytona models. The V11 got, after all, a new 6-speed gearbox, and I thought the motor moved back to centre with that.

[docc]

10 minutes ago, audiomick said:

I thought that only applied to the Sport 1100 and Daytona models. The V11 got, after all, a new 6-speed gearbox, and I thought the motor moved back to centre with that.

 Interesting. We have a thread that investigated this and supports this change to driveline placement with the V11 6speeder relative to the 5-speed SpineFrames.

I'll see if I can find  it   . . .

edit: Here is one of them starting with a post by @Admin Jaap:

 

[Pressureangle]

I had a close look at my frame/subframe, 2000 Red frame V11 and can say with certainty that the subframe is centered along the spine frame axis. It's never been unbolted, the bike has never been crashed and the center captive nut on the tail loop is clearly centered along the frame centerline.

[Pressureangle]

TLM has one if you don't think you can get yours right

https://en.tlm.nl/moto-guzzi-triumph/us-01410240-used-achterframe-v11-sport-rood

[Paul57]

17 minutes ago, Pressureangle said:

TLM has one if you don't think you can get yours right

https://en.tlm.nl/moto-guzzi-triumph/us-01410240-used-achterframe-v11-sport-rood

Thanx for the link, I have another that’s been re sprayed. It’s finding the time to fit.

ive just got it back on the road after my crash, it’s the left handlebar as it’s bent I’m having difficulty sourcing and the cost is astronomical!!😳