Video discussion- record, edit, post etc.

[Pressureangle]

Since we touched on sound/video considerations I thought I'd start a conversation specifically about that.

I had a GoPro a few years ago, video quality was good. Sound was shyte. Video editing software was not intuitive, data storage requirement was enormous- in the end, just gave the camera away. 
Got Innovv F&R cams on the 'Sport; video quality nearly as good, audio also shyte (neither had external mic port) direct-to-card recording at least made getting it into the PC easier. Editing software was generic, don't recall what it was. Still, not easy to use, add/subtract sound etc. 

So what's the easy answer? I see the cameras most common to vloggers, they still use GoPro but may have multiple brands (360 etc.) 
What are they using to put it all together?

Ushuaia has been calling

[audiomick]

Although I (still) don't know how to use this, I'll throw it into the ring. We have it at work, and the colleague that uses it most seems to like it. Another colleague, only been there 2 years or so, did a Masters in Documentary Film Production. I gather she learned to use it whilst at Uni, so it's not just us using it.

There is a free version, but I don't know what the difference between the free and the sold version is. Even so, the sold version apparently only costs about $300,-.

Have a look at it. Maybe it is a solution.

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

The blurb:

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DaVinci Resolve is the world’s only solution that combines editing, color correction, visual effects, motion graphics and audio post production all in one software tool! Its elegant, modern interface is fast to learn and easy for new users, yet powerful for professionals. DaVinci Resolve lets you work faster and at a higher quality because you don’t have to learn multiple apps or switch software for different tasks. That means you can work with camera original quality images throughout the entire process. It’s like having your own post production studio in a single app! Best of all, by learning DaVinci Resolve, you’re learning how to use the exact same tools used by Hollywood professionals!

 

One thing: the computer needs a bit of power, or it will be really, really slow.

 

PS: I gather that the software is cheap because Davinci earns its money on cameras and such, and things like specialised controllers for the program. The want people using the software to keep them in the "ecosystem", so it is fairly cheap for the small-time user.

Edited Sunday at 06:40 PM by audiomick

[audiomick]

4 hours ago, Pressureangle said:

... GoPro ...Sound was shyte..

...Innovv F&R cams ...audio also shyte (neither had external mic port)...

The point with the external mic is the critical one. The audio recording quality on a GoPro is fine (we've got two of them at work too...), as is the quality on a Zoom recorder and co. . The point is collecting good audio to record. The short answer to that: use good mics and do it right.

The GoPros we have are these, I think

https://gopro.com/en/us/shop/cameras/hero10-black/CHDHX-101-master.html

further equipped with these

https://gopro.com/en/us/shop/mounts-accessories/camera-media-mod/ADFMD-001.html

The media mod does have an audio input. It is only a 3.5mm mini jack, but better than nothing.

 

PS: that is not to be construed as a recommendation for GoPro. I've barely used the things. It's just an indication of what is possible. If GoPro have something like that, I dare say competitiors will too.

Edited Sunday at 06:51 PM by audiomick

[Pressureangle]

56 minutes ago, audiomick said:

Although I (still) don't know how to use this, I'll throw it into the ring. We have it at work, and the colleague that uses it most seems to like it. Another colleague, only been there 2 years or so, did a Masters in Documentary Film Production. I gather she learned to use it whilst at Uni, so it's not just us using it.

There is a free version, but I don't know what the difference between the free and the sold version is. Even so, the sold version apparently only costs about $300,-.

Have a look at it. Maybe it is a solution.

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

The blurb:

 

One thing: the computer needs a bit of power, or it will be really, really slow.

 

PS: I gather that the software is cheap because Davinci earns its money on cameras and such, and things like specialised controllers for the program. The want people using the software to keep them in the "ecosystem", so it is fairly cheap for the small-time user.

EEEeeeeyeah... No

That's exactly the sort of thing I *don't* want. Though obviously it's the bee's knees for 'professionals' it's WAY to competent and thus overcomplicated for me. 
Not to mention that my 'friendly use' computer is a 15 year old Alienware R2 running Win7. 
Dammit I'm a mechanic, Jim, not a Doctor. 
I'm imagining something that looks like an upper and lower screen; the upper with a video and slider, the lower with audio and a slider. Drag and drop one onto the other. Of course there needs to be easy-to-use sectioning tools for both, to create multiple clips and then reassemble them into a single combined product. It's probably out there, but I'm not motivated to download and test and reject a bunch of software suites to find one that is easy to use and adequately competent. 

[audiomick]

1 hour ago, Pressureangle said:

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I'm imagining something that looks like an upper and lower screen; the upper with a video and slider, the lower with audio and a slider. Drag and drop one onto the other. Of course there needs to be easy-to-use sectioning tools for both, to create multiple clips and then reassemble them into a single combined product....

I'm a bit loath to say it mate, but that is more or less exactly what Resolve is.

I'm not even sure there are all that many other products out there. To be honest, I don't do very much editing at all. Even so, my experience is, "simple" products are generally crap. To get good results, you need a good product. The trick is to concentrate on the features you want to use, learn them, and ignore the rest.

[Pressureangle]

3 hours ago, audiomick said:

I'm a bit loath to say it mate, but that is more or less exactly what Resolve is.

I'm not even sure there are all that many other products out there. To be honest, I don't do very much editing at all. Even so, my experience is, "simple" products are generally crap. To get good results, you need a good product. The trick is to concentrate on the features you want to use, learn them, and ignore the rest.

Well then, since it's free at least for basic I may have to give it a shot. Probably not reasonable to ask for something specifically tailored to my whims.