belfastguzzi Posted March 21, 2005 Posted March 21, 2005 considering the cost of transportation we quote you our very best dealer price Euro 412,50. Bruno "Brian" Saturno 46717[/snapback] Seems like a very good price indeed, if you don't have to pay any other tax on top of that. The price in UK is £600 = €865. Your price is less than half and works out at £286. It would almost be worth buying as a 'second' exhaust system! A Stucchi x-over alone is £200: so crossover + cans + ECU = well over £1,000 while Quat-D at your price = £286, just over a quarter of that price. Buy a few for Christmas presents.
v50man Posted March 21, 2005 Author Posted March 21, 2005 Not to my knowledge.There was a kind of double walled outlet. But, I did not even think about removing the inner outlet, which could have been a restrictor or catalyst 46722[/snapback] That MUST be it!
v50man Posted March 21, 2005 Author Posted March 21, 2005 Seems like a very good price indeed, if you don't have to pay any other tax on top of that. The price in UK is £600 = €865. Your price is less than half and works out at £286. It would almost be worth buying as a 'second' exhaust system! A Stucchi x-over alone is £200: so crossover + cans + ECU = well over £1,000 while Quat-D at your price = £286, just over a quarter of that price. Buy a few for Christmas presents. 46726[/snapback] I'll let you know if that's a "real" price when I request the other quote. Any thoughts on the term "ex-works" -- I'm baffled. Perhaps a language barrier?
belfastguzzi Posted March 21, 2005 Posted March 21, 2005 I'll let you know if that's a "real" price when I request the other quote. Any thoughts on the term "ex-works" -- I'm baffled. Perhaps a language barrier? 46728[/snapback] I think it just means, delivered from the factory. They want your address to then get a delivery price from the local outlet / factory / works to your home town / country.
dlaing Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 I'll let you know if that's a "real" price when I request the other quote. Any thoughts on the term "ex-works" -- I'm baffled. Perhaps a language barrier? 46728[/snapback] I am pretty sure ex-box means box style exhaust. So, ex-works might mean the complete exhaust system. Hamburger with the works I guess you have seen the complete kit on Quat-D's site: http://www.quat-d.com/prodotto.php?pcode=1...d=89&curr_id=1; They say: "Sottomotore Ex-box Catalizzato" which means undermotor exhaust box with catalytic convertor. I could not find the race version on their website. The Ducati Ex-box looks pretty slick, but is even more expensive, 840 euro
v50man Posted March 22, 2005 Author Posted March 22, 2005 I am pretty sure ex-box means box style exhaust.So, ex-works might mean the complete exhaust system. Hamburger with the works I guess you have seen the complete kit on Quat-D's site: http://www.quat-d.com/prodotto.php?pcode=1...d=89&curr_id=1; They say: "Sottomotore Ex-box Catalizzato" which means undermotor exhaust box with catalytic convertor. I could not find the race version on their website. The Ducati Ex-box looks pretty slick, but is even more expensive, 840 euro 46764[/snapback] On the first count, I hope you're right (that ex-works means the complete exhaust system). If not, no big deal -- but it does look better with their headers. As regards not finding the "race" version, I believe that is because the system is designed to allow one to easily extract the catalyzer/restrictor. In other words, the "inner" wall of the double-walled outlet pulls out -- greatly freeing up the system -- and THAT (I'm guessing) constitutes the "Race" system. And, yeah -- DUAL outlets for the monster system, only one for the V11. Hmmmmm...
DeBenGuzzi Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 If it had Dual outlets I'd probably be more inclined to get one. Someone should ask and see if they can start whipping them together that way if they do it on a different model.
v50man Posted March 23, 2005 Author Posted March 23, 2005 The latest from Ghezzi & Brian re ex-box. Not such a wonderful deal after all, I'm beginning to think. Here goes... ex-works means that all trasportation costs are at your charge from our factory to your domicile. free to your premises means free domicile: transportation costs are included in the quotation from our factory to your domicile. We will get you a free domicile quotation asap. About the head pipes, you are correct the price is for the muffler only. Best regards, Bruno "Brian" Saturno
belfastguzzi Posted March 23, 2005 Posted March 23, 2005 ex-works means that all trasportation costs are at your charge from ourfactory to your domicile. 46836[/snapback] Yeah, that's what I said, above, but now, this next bit, what on earth does this mean – free to your premises means free domicile: transportation costs are includedin the quotation from our factory to your domicile. We will get you a free domicile quotation asap. 46836[/snapback] It looks contradictory Pity about the headers: apart from anything else, the shape looks good – better than the MG pipes (from photos anyway). The U.K. price I quoted above includes the pipes.
v50man Posted March 26, 2005 Author Posted March 26, 2005 Ordered the non-catalyzed ex-box from Quat-D. Makes sense. Thanks, DLAING. Will post movies and sound file as soon as it comes in. If I'm not right, I've at least saved the rest of you about $1,000... Onward... F
DeBenGuzzi Posted March 26, 2005 Posted March 26, 2005 Can anyone tell me anything about these DPM pipes I see on the sponsor I went to the homesite of thiers and its all in itialian and is hard to translate. They look the best to me bloody expensive but maybe a deal somehow somewhere never know? I'm back to thinking FBF they have them readily in the states are loud and least expensive with marginally low complaints. no ti's tho
v50man Posted March 29, 2005 Author Posted March 29, 2005 I'm back to thinking FBF they have them readily in the states are loud and least expensive with marginally low complaints. no ti's tho Give it a week or so, DeBen... I ordered the COMPLETE kit from Quat-D, and the English-speaking rep from the factory says that this setup is rated at 105 db with the catalyser removed -- not bad. Per the two outlets, the most powerful Guzzi V11s I've seen have the 2-1 systems. Certainly, the exhaust system on the Griso is more than a styling exercise -- but, wait, we're dealing with the Italians here... My plan is to ceramic-coat the system prior to permanent install, but I'll slip the Quat-D on and get a TRUE sound file prior to the process so everyone can hear what they REALLY sound like. Per the DPM pipes, I can't find anything. Onward...
dlaing Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Per the two outlets, the most powerful Guzzi V11s I've seen have the 2-1 systems. Certainly, the exhaust system on the Griso is more than a styling exercise -- but, wait, we're dealing with the Italians here... 47264[/snapback] I used to be down on the idea of 2-1 systems, until the Power Commander added the seperate cylinder tuning capability. I am looking forward to your results. I may have to put my serial PCIII and Mistrals up for sale...even if they sound so nice, and go back to the QuatD but with the PCIII USB.
v50man Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 Quat-D arrived today!!! Most excited. DLAING, it appears that the catalyzer (which they shipped removed) mounts on top of the "muffler" -- quite close to the hanger. It's a piece of stainless steel about 4" x 4" (a flat plate) riveted into the top of the muffler -- and, damn, am I glad it's gone. It'll be a bit before I can post a sound file as I'm going to do some fine sanding this weekend and then have it ceramic coated (inside and out) prior to install and tuning. I have high hopes... I'll soon post a pic of the catalyzer...
dlaing Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Can't wait to read your impressions. You will find the dyno tuning will make a huge difference with this muffler. I remember gaining something like six HP because it needed the right mixture. Let me know if need a PCIII map to get started with. How much did it cost after shipping and everything?
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