Guzzichondriac?

[Martin Barrett]

Kind of like 'snipe hunting'.....

 

American to English translation - wild goose chase.

 

Sounds like a perfectly reasonable thing to do on a Guzzi

 

a bit like asking the apprentice to go to the stores for a "long weight (sic (wait))" or a "long stand"

[belfastguzzi]

I realised that. Come to think of it, when I have a look at this rear needle bearing this weekend, I will be able to confound the doomsayers with a picture of this perfect, clean greasy bearing.....

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'this perfect, clean greasy bearing'

 

so you have already bought a new one then?

[belfastguzzi]

a bit like asking the apprentice to go to the stores for a "long weight (sic (wait))" or a "long stand"

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fork handles

[big J]

Oh, yes. Tartan paint, sparks for the grinder,a new bubble for the spirit level,a skyhook, a long stand, watchspring screws"so small you cant see them, and dont drop any", a bag of half inch holes............apprenticeship was a time of great learning all right.

[belfastguzzi]

I realised that. Come to think of it, when I have a look at this rear needle bearing this weekend, I will be able to confound the doomsayers with a picture of this perfect, clean greasy bearing.....

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Wellllll?

[Guest Nogbad]

Wellllll?

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I had an urgent revenue earning job to do, and in addition the wonderful weather meant that the bike needed to be ridden rather than taken apart, so for now, the mystery must remain....

 

However, next weekend.... I really will take a look!

 

(The wheel has to come out very soon as the tyre is almost done, maybe only 500 miles left in it)

[belfastguzzi]

I had an urgent revenue earning job to do, and in addition the wonderful weather meant that the bike needed to be ridden rather than taken apart, so for now, the mystery must remain....

 

However, next weekend.... I really will take a look! 

 

(The wheel has to come out very soon as the tyre is almost done, maybe only 500 miles left in it)

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I'm trying to get that bearing out now – it's torture. Where's BigJ and his big hammer when you need him?

No doubt it will be easier the second time.

 

Edit: I kept telling myself I should look to see what method BJ used, but of course I just kept working away with little result. I've looked back at his post now, so will try the bent punch that I should have tried at first. I must say that the bearing really does seem tight though and not as free as BJ found.

[big J]

Hi Belfast, dunno if I can add anything, my bearing slid out pretty easy with very light tapping either side to keep it square on the way out.Try pulling out all the wee needles and just knockout the cage. Hope this helps.

[Guest Nogbad]

Ha! You are just trying to scare me. I still contend that inspection will reveal my bearing in at least acceptable condition!

[DeBenGuzzi]

I wasn't even thinking my bearing would be all shotty with only 9K on the clock, But low and Behold IT WAS. only cost me a pennies on the dollar to have them fix it, I got lucky if you look at it that way. <_>

[belfastguzzi]

Hi Belfast, dunno if I can add anything, my bearing slid out pretty easy with very light tapping either side to keep it square on the way out.Try pulling out all the wee needles and just knockout the cage. Hope this helps.

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Well, that was a real dog's dinner.

Lesson 1: I wish that I had just left the thing in and re-greased it.

 

I knocked out some of the needles but still couldn't get the bearing body to shift. All that happened was that the outside lip bent out. So I knocked out the big bearing on the other side, thinking that it would then be easy to knock the roller bearing out from behind. Took out the long spacer and hammered like crazy at the washer in behind the needle roller, trying to push the lot out. No movement at all. The only thing that happened was the washer got cupped. I was hitting so hard that I was worried about damaging the whole drive casing.

Lesson 2: now I know that the washer doesn't come out. It's captive in the housing. I'll have to settle for now having a mashed washer in there for good.

I eventually got the bearing body out by chipping, cutting, breaking. Really messy and it took a long time.

I put in a new bearing and a new inner sleeve, one without the little hole in it this time. The sleeve doesn't rotate easily. I hope that I haven't damaged the new needle roller when putting it in. I suppose that I'll have to get a new big bearing too, rather than put the other one back.

All in all, not a great success.

 

I'd like to hear how others get this bearing out – and I'm sure Nogbad would too.

[Baldini]

Belfast, Haven't looked at the job but would some gentle heat have helped? Was bearing outer loctited/fitted using bearing fit perhaps? If so, maybe some are some aren't...

 

KB

[DeBenGuzzi]

I won't be much help but at the dealership they used some weird plastic looking thing and got it into place almost like a mini jack with the wheel laying down on the ground then took a hammer and a punch/chisel(couldn't be sure) and knocked it out some how. one side took him a couple of whacks and the other side seemed to come right out.

[big J]

Belfast, Haven't looked at the job but would some gentle heat have helped? Was bearing outer loctited/fitted using bearing fit perhaps? If so, maybe some are some aren't...

 

KB

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Certainly sounds suspiciously like bearing fit,doesnt it. Sorry I was unable to help more, as I said, mine just slipped out pretty easy. Would it be beyond the realms of possibility that Belfasts' housing was machined slightly oversize and they've used the bearing fit to locate the bearing? Anyone got any info?

[Guest Nogbad]

Looks like this weekend is out too. I am only home for one night then its back to site to supervise pipe welding. Hence the bearing will have to wait some more.