gthyni Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 Of course I start this on a sunday with nice weather so I finally get inspired to put the engine together. I removed the sump, flange, oilcoolr and oilfilter so far so good, but then... How the feck does these things come together... looked at the instruction included but it is not very helpful. The housing for the oilpressure-valve and the thermostatic valve is in the way.. 2 Qs: - can I remove the hosusing and valves altogether? - do I need to reroute some oil piping?
Mike Stewart Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 Gthyni, Is your question regarding installing the deep V oil pan? You also need to remove the center housing that has the oil pressure switch and thermostat. This is held in place by a few bolts. The oil pressure relief valve needs (if I remember correctly) to be installed into the deep V sump. Take care removing the oil pressure relief valve, there is some really strong lock tite holding it in place. I cracked the center housing when removing mine. Also use locktite when installing it into the sump. If this baby comes loose, you will loose all oil pressure. You can remove the inner valve assembly with the upper sump half, the pipes and valves come out as one piece. You do not have to do any plumbing. The only plumbing will be the oil drain from the frame to the sump. The oil pickup and oil feed are all done by the passages in the deep V sump. And yes, the german instructions are Hope this helps, Mike Of course I start this on a sunday with nice weatherso I finally get inspired to put the engine together. I removed the sump, flange, oilcoolr and oilfilter so far so good, but then... How the feck does these things come together... looked at the instruction included but it is not very helpful. The housing for the oilpressure-valve and the thermostatic valve is in the way.. 2 Qs: - can I remove the hosusing and valves altogether? - do I need to reroute some oil piping? 48981[/snapback]
Paul Minnaert Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 when I removed mine to see if there were motorparts in the olie, I took a picture
gthyni Posted April 17, 2005 Author Posted April 17, 2005 thanks guys, all became much clearer when I removed the centre housing. Only problem now is the drain line to the frame. The adapter from the old sump does not fit, 'cause the hole in the new sump is a bit larger.
Mike Stewart Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 thanks guys,all became much clearer when I removed the centre housing. Only problem now is the drain line to the frame. The adapter from the old sump does not fit, 'cause the hole in the new sump is a bit larger. 49000[/snapback] When I purchased the sump, I think there were two different part numbers listed. My sump came with a length of hose and fittings to make the oil drain back hose. The drain back hose attaches to the oil drain hole in the pan via a large banjo fitting. Then there is a smaller drain plug that is in the center of the banjo bolt to aid draining the sump. Mike
Paul Minnaert Posted April 17, 2005 Posted April 17, 2005 Well, mine is a bit older, and only has a M20x 1.5 thread, same as the oilfillplug on engine and gearbox. I took a drainplug, with the flat outside and a hex inside. MAde the tread for the smaller plug that you have now in the old oilpan, screwed it in, and welded it on the inside, so I'm sure it's never going to loosen, or leak. See picture
zebulon Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Hey goran The problem is the same even with older production of the part. When you get this V oilsump, you must do build your own oil hose <_> Sorry to have forgotten to warm you about that.
gthyni Posted April 18, 2005 Author Posted April 18, 2005 I mailed Moto Spezial about it this morning, no reply yet. Tomorrow I will also check what local hardware store can supply.
gthyni Posted April 18, 2005 Author Posted April 18, 2005 next Q: what about the mesh filter... the stock one has an off-centre mounting bolt and no cutout, the v-sump wants a centred bolt and a cutout for the oil flow in-cast tubing. did you just throw it away or shall I do some careful "knifeing"?
gthyni Posted April 26, 2005 Author Posted April 26, 2005 bump I decided to leave the mesh filter out, it seems that a cut mesh would be just as likely to spread metal as to catch it- Is this dangerously stupid?
Paul Minnaert Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Is this dangerously stupid? Well, I didn't find things in it last time, but if some engineparts come down, it might be a good thing. Pete Roper can tell you horrorstorys for shure.:-) Did you find an oilline solution?
gthyni Posted April 26, 2005 Author Posted April 26, 2005 Well, I didn't find things in it last time, but if some engineparts come down, it might be a good thing. Pete Roper can tell you horrorstorys for shure.:-) Did you find an oilline solution? 49764[/snapback] I hope the oil filter could catch most things. I change oil and filter more frequently than the service schedule recommends. I made a reduction so I can use the stock hose. I seems to sit tight and good but I will weld it locked with Alutite so it stays in place when thing get hot.
gthyni Posted April 27, 2005 Author Posted April 27, 2005 I can confirm that the sump is good for transporting heat. One hour with a propane burner and I did get the whole thing hot to handle even with gloves but I couldn't get the spot I was aiming at hot enough to Alutite weld my flange to the sump I am certain the oil cooler is not needed with this thing on
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