Steve G. Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 I think you've done a great job of the remote placement. I would caution you to keep an eye on the bracket though. Aluminum will have a short service life on a Moto Guzzi. Have you ever looked down to the old bracket to see how the original bracket/remote danced around like crazy. I think steel is the only final fix, just like the e.o.m. oil cooler brackets on my V11, the aluminum ones vapourized quickly, but the steel ones are not an issue. Ciao, Steve G.
dlaing Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 The 9.5 kg/mm spring feels a little stiff, but I'll check my sag this weekend to be sure. The adjustments need some fiddling. 60362[/snapback] Changing sag should not effect the stiffness. I'd be sure to start with the compression settings backed out and work your way in to what feels good. With that spring weight, you won't need much compression damping.
beauchemin Posted September 16, 2005 Author Posted September 16, 2005 Changing sag should not effect the stiffness.I'd be sure to start with the compression settings backed out and work your way in to what feels good. With that spring weight, you won't need much compression damping. 60399[/snapback] spring rate = 9.5Kg/mm rider weight (with gear) = 205 lbs. static sag = 16mm (bike only) dynamic sag = 25 mm (with rider) total sag = 41mm Total sag of 41mm is just about perfect given a wheel travel of 125mm. BUT... I have made the grisly discovery that the Wilbers shock stroke is only 46mm (which I assume translates into a rear wheel travel of only 92mm). I measured from the top of the exposed shaft to the bottom of the bumper. Even if my measurement is off by a few mm, the stroke is nowhere near the 58mm that I was told it would be. To say the least, I'm very very disappointed. Maybe the shock was built with the wrong body length, so we'll see. I have contacted the importer to see how the problem can be fixed. The Wilbers is still a huge improvement over the Sachs, but I can't see how less travel is a good thing for very bumpy roads.
quazi-moto Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 Do any of the aftermarket rear shock offerings simlpy just bolt on? Or does one have to fabricate custom bracketry, etc.?
Admin Jaap Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Öhlins fits without any adaption needed.
dlaing Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Öhlins fits without any adaption needed. 60488[/snapback] I thought you had to adapt something to hold the remote preload. Other shocks that need no rigging, are the ones with no remote resevoir. For example the basic hagon.
dlaing Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 BUT... I have made the grisly discovery that the Wilbers shock stroke is only 46mm 60423[/snapback] I'd be upset. That may be fine for the racetrack, but not the real world. So, now I must retract my statement that sag does not effect stiffness. Because if the sag is too much, you will feel the bottoming on the bumper. I would decrease the sag from a third to a quarter, as you may need all the travel you can get, without topping out regularly. ...or better still, return the shock to have them put a shorter body with longer travel.
Admin Jaap Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 I thought you had to adapt something to hold the remote preload. 60490[/snapback] No, it fits right in the original bracket
Admin Jaap Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 In Germany quite a few have mounted the Wilbers shock. I haven't read their experiences with it, but if the shock wasn't suited for the V11 they would have written it on their forum.
beauchemin Posted September 18, 2005 Author Posted September 18, 2005 In Germany quite a few have mounted the Wilbers shock. I haven't read their experiences with it, but if the shock wasn't suited for the V11 they would have written it on their forum. 60522[/snapback] Jaap - if you have some spare time, would you mind having a look at some of the Wilbers posts on the German forum (if there are any)? I would be interested to hear their general comments.
big J Posted September 18, 2005 Posted September 18, 2005 Maxton bolts straight on, remote adjuster fits stock bracket.
quazi-moto Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 So in other words the Maxton unit is a direct replacement for the stocker?
Admin Jaap Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Jaap - if you have some spare time, would you mind having a look at some of the Wilbers posts on the German forum (if there are any)? I would be interested to hear their general comments. 60618[/snapback] I'll start a new thread, the info is quite shattered on that board.
big J Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 So in other words the Maxton unit is a direct replacement for the stocker? 60657[/snapback] Yupindeedily
Martin Barrett Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Yupindeedily 60710[/snapback] Nicely put, should clarify it perfectly for those for which English isn't their first language (rather like my spelling)
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