Guest Steve_W Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Whhen you put it that way I agree with you 100%. 60695[/snapback] The problem is, as usual, one of perception. Most of the boneheads driving these things do so because it looks like the original Hummer which, if you remember, became a legal motor vehicle only because some people with way too much money were buying HMMMVs, the original military vehicle, and driving them around. When Car and Driver tested the H2, they related the story of how AM General insisted it be at least reasonable off-road. Apparently, GM engineers got an H1 and a Chevy Tahoe (the vehicle upon which the H2 is based) and took them 4-wheelin' together. The Tahoe could go almost anywhere the H1 could go, but it took a serious beating in the process, got hung up in various places the H1 did not, and basically demonstrated its lack of survivability. Despite that assessment, the H2 remains a Tahoe in almost all respects except the awesomely ugly bodywork and much less overhang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiekb Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Now I can answer this as I have some experience. When I completed my RAF Officer training I held (waiting specialist secondary training) at Cranwell helping out on the officer training (instant expert) mainly driving the safety vehicles. I was confronted one day by a fallen pine tree, about 12-18" diameter fallen across the trail. Tackled it the same way I used to on my trials bike. Drive up to it. Ease off to get the weight transference forward compress the front suspension, big heap of throttle. Front comes up and over, ease off and momentum and weight transference carries the back over. Piece of piss. The next day confronted by a large trunk about 18-24". Full of confidence I can do excess of 3' on the trials bike. The problem is cant get at this one square on. Same methodology. Front comes up nicely get wheels on top and then it goes all horribly wrong the right goes over whilst the left doesn't and drops back. Falls on to the steering tie rod arm thingy (technical term) bending it. Couldn't go forward or back. In the end had to get it jacked up and pulled back by a load of officer cadets. I drove it back to the depot. Tyres squealing very difficult to go left and shot around right handers rather akin to a Sopwith Camel (torque reaction from large rotary engine) This cost me a case of beer for the mechanics to fix and ended up walking for the rest of the week. When I say walking I mean running about the mountainside with the Officer Cadets. And then there was the time I got stuck in mud up to its floor pan. Any one want to let me have a go in their 4X4 60677[/snapback] I did a similar course out of BRNC Dartmouth in a Landy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiekb Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 ..so thats why i like my H2 ? aweseomly ugly kinda describes my Guzzi as well wouldn't change my bike for anything...but i am thinking about buying a buell ulysees given that the breva/new Quota is probably a few years off yet.. oh wait another ugly vehicle... laughs this is a trend with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Off road machines with for wheels the heavier you are the faster you sink more power doesn't fix that in any way shape or form. Favourite machine is the Suzuki LJ50, current avalible machines Landie D90, Suzuki Jimmy the Griso is still but ugly IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staedtler Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Robbie...i know...every now and then i go offroad (about 20 yards), and i'm telling you.. there's some serious weed hoping involved... some of these suckers are about 6-7" tall... but it's allright, i manage...the problem comes when it rains (about twice a year) then is all over, they grow about 4-5' tall with big bright yellow flowers on them, they look like sun flowers....wait, they are sunflowers! ps: check out my winter chalet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badmotogoozer Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 That's some sweet digs ya got there staedtler! I always thought you lived in an old Boler or Airstream down by the river... Rj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staedtler Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Nah...! i just use the Stream when i take the family to the dry lake runs in Nevada...my kid was going for a speed record on his moped... ... I'm tell'n you...there's nothing like a good road trip with the family on early spring...aahh the songs!, the sight seeing..! maan oh man... Mmmn mmnh btw; i forgot to mention, i'm also into vintage movie space suits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiekb Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 i'd be so stoked to have an airstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badmotogoozer Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I'b be so stoked to have what's in that white skirt... Sweet trailer! I really like the "mother-in-law" suite. (visible in the reflection just in front of the tire...) Rj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Breva's big-city uncle gets ready to delivery VAST file of Breva info to Ropey's computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard100t Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Robbie...i know...every now and then i go offroad (about 20 yards), and i'm telling you.. there's some serious weed hoping involved... some of these suckers are about 6-7" tall... but it's allright, i manage...the problem comes when it rains (about twice a year) then is all over, they grow about 4-5' tall with big bright yellow flowers on them, they look like sun flowers....wait, they are sunflowers! ps: check out my winter chalet... 60788[/snapback] Thats kinda what my house looked like when I bought it. A few new windows, some vinyl siding...lol good as new. With all the money you save not living in the finer part of town you get to afford more bikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Breva's big-city uncle gets ready to delivery VAST file of Breva info to Ropey's computer. 60980[/snapback] Bloody hell! That looks like the beast that was waiting to pick up Neil Diamond after his concert in Vancouver tonight! P.S. I managed to get half pissed and fall asleep during the concert...I suppose that's why the wife was completely pissed..... at me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Bloody hell! Neil Diamond concert in Vancouver tonight! fall asleep during the concert. 60999[/snapback] best thing you could do really or you coulda brought an iPod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Barrett Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Nice little Video for those who like to play in the mud with their 4X4s. I wonder how much effort it took to get it started after the aborted river crossing. Can you get a one way valve/flap for your snorkel? Switch to battery power Top Gear once did silly things with a Toyota pick up, washed out to sea, threw it off a cliff and it it kept running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 He he. Very good. Those carefree, frolicsome Ruskies. Up to their armpits in radioactive sludge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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