mdude Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 My red pork chops (frame pieces) are seriously sunbleeched. I have seen this on a couple of other green/red V11s, while newer bikes seems to have a tougher type of paint. What have other guys done with this? Can I restore the pieces with some kind of rubbing compound (tried some light paint cleaner, but that didn't do it), without dismantling? (cuz I'm lazy...) Or is it best to remove them for painting? Is dismantling straightforward? Will big, heavy and expensive bits fall down if I take them off the bike for repainting? I have not yet tried bigger operations on this bike.
Mike Stewart Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 My red pork chops (frame pieces) are seriously sunbleeched. I have seen this on a couple of other green/red V11s, while newer bikes seems to have a tougher type of paint. What have other guys done with this? Can I restore the pieces with some kind of rubbing compound (tried some light paint cleaner, but that didn't do it), without dismantling? (cuz I'm lazy...) Or is it best to remove them for painting? Is dismantling straightforward? Will big, heavy and expensive bits fall down if I take them off the bike for repainting? I have not yet tried bigger operations on this bike. 62024[/snapback] MDude, Cleaners and compounds will not work to bring the red back. The lazy way to repair it would be to remove all the parts you can (foot pegs shifter etc.) and then tape up the exposed bolt heads and use a high quaility spray paint to cover the pork chops. Doing it the right way will most likely take you at LEAST two weekend to do it. This would be taking the rear wheel and swingarm off among other components while trying to figure out how to support the bike to keep it from falling over. Powder Coating to me would be the way to go for a trouble free finish. Mike
mdude Posted October 4, 2005 Author Posted October 4, 2005 Thanks. You confirm my fears. I feared that the pork chops can not be easily dismantled. This smells of manual labour and cold garage floors. Nice excuse to buy expensive imported beer, though.... Will try to bodge it up with spraypaint first, then do the big thing during winter. Must find workshop-manual first, then wait for the snow....
Guest Nogbad Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 Leave it alone and go ride it instead. It's just natural ageing.
Guest MotoMessiah Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 I think it was Al Rothlislonber...Al Rothlessber...Al Rothlisberger...I think it was Al who mentioned he talked to a powder coat specialist and they mentioned they couldn't guarantee the outcome of the "chops" as the material was not perfect for a clean powder coat. I think the OEM finish is paint actually.
Mike Stewart Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 I think it was Al Rothlislonber...Al Rothlessber...Al Rothlisberger...I think it was Al who mentioned he talked to a powder coat specialist and they mentioned they couldn't guarantee the outcome of the "chops" as the material was not perfect for a clean powder coat. I think the OEM finish is paint actually. 62053[/snapback] Al had his pork chops powder coated, I think you are thinking about when he tried to have them anodized. Al? Mike
Guest MotoMessiah Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 Oops. You're right. It was anodizing. And it was his valve covers. (Gilda Radner voice) Never mind...
callison Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 Believe it or not, with this stand you can remove the porkchops without entirely disassembling the bike. I know, I did it - but I don't remember how Something about supporting the swing arm and only doing one side at a time... BTW, Craftsman (Sears) has just released a Home Powder Coat System. Craftsman Powder Coat System This would make the porkchop endeavor a half-weekend chore. In addition to the powdercoat setup, you'll need a sand blaster and probably walnut shells to do the dirty work as well as a good shop area and a small oven (toaster oven is ok) that will never be used for foodstuffs again. Obviously, it's cheaper to send a series of small parts off to a powdercoat firm if you're just doing a small quantity but if you start embellishing small parts periodically as you work on the bike, this would be a pretty convenient approach. I'll put it on my Christmas list so my wife can laugh at me...
mdude Posted October 5, 2005 Author Posted October 5, 2005 good tip, I was wondering if doing one side at a time was possible. will look into. in a months time we will be covered in slush an d snow up here, so time is on my side.
Guest jedione68 Posted October 5, 2005 Posted October 5, 2005 McDude, I thought I was the only one with that problem, pink Porkers! On my 2000 the the right side is fadded and the left (the old kickstand- leaning in the shade side) is almost new looking. And this is on a bike that spends most of its time in the garage. Go figure. Good luck, and get some ridding in before the snow comes. And at the 1st sign of snow... rip her apart and get a bunch of the powder-coated. And add that lighted flywheel since she all open. Peace. Jedione68
Steve G. Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 The only problem with this great idea [powder coating] is the high probability that the new powder coating/paint will not match the rest of the red on the bike, the frame, swingarm etc. . Ciao, Steve G.
callison Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 The only problem with this great idea [powder coating] is the high probability that the new powder coating/paint will not match the rest of the red on the bike, the frame, swingarm etc. . Ciao, Steve G. 62265[/snapback] I'll guarantee that the original color can't be matched with powder coat. Of course, you're not limited to red. I tried black (then stripped the swingarm spindle threads) and wound up going with silver. If I ever find a tap and die for that spectacularly odd thread in the porkchop, I'll have the other set repaired.
mdude Posted October 7, 2005 Author Posted October 7, 2005 I wont be powder coating. No colour match, and powder coaters are as scarce as pink giant squirrels her in Norway (they ARE around, only difficult to spot...). Paint and teflon coating is the way to go. I think pork chops should be shiny... Done teflon coating on my car (1990 Audi Turbo Quattro Coupe, 300 hp, vrooom :-) and its amazing. Dirt repellent and chip resistant.
Skeeve Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 If I ever find a tap and die for that spectacularly odd thread in the porkchop, I'll have the other set repaired. 62269[/snapback] McMaster Carr? Just out of curiosity, what's the porkchop thread spec? You said "spectacularly odd," so is it something like 20mm x .5mm [iem, a big even # after the usual transition from the even-to-odd# progression of 10,12,14,17,19,21,23,etc..., with a really fine thread for that size fastener?] Enquiring minds want to know!
kenm Posted October 9, 2005 Posted October 9, 2005 I had the problem on my silver 2000 V11S. MG replaced them under warranty. When the new, nicely red plates arrived, the problem was obvious. There was no clear coat. So I paid $50 to have several coats of clear applied to them before they were installed. They haven't faded in the last 3 years. So paint and some clear coat should work for you. Regards, -ken
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