Fast idle and seat latch springs

[O2 V11]

As per a previous thread, I put a piece of rubber tubing on mine after swapping the springs over. It works a treat.

Rob

[belfastguzzi]

As per a previous thread, I put a piece of rubber tubing on mine after swapping the springs over. It works a treat.

Rob

66239[/snapback]

I missed that. I looked for some tube, rubber or otherwise, but didn't have a suitable size to hand. I ruined a perfectly good plastic pen and a few other things before settling on the aluminium.

 

But now we know – use the adjustment scew

[belfastguzzi]

Belfast - It's over. I'm never following your fettling regime again after this.

66218[/snapback]

What's wrong? Can't you get all those arrows and numbers to stick to your bike?

 

Here, Present for you!

 

66218[/snapback]

[Guest Nogbad]

What's wrong? Can't you get all those arrows and numbers to stick to your bike?

       

66246[/snapback]

 

 

Actually, given that you deliberately bent something, I think I need to upgrade your award....

 

[Alex-Corsa]

Set-up with these modifications, my handlebar lever now smoothly sets the engine speed at anywhere between 1,100 rpm on the clock (lever off) and just under 6,000 rpm on the clock (lever fully on) – and it stays where it's set.

Cruise control?

66179[/snapback]

 

In my 1100ie Guzzi workshop manual it is stated that with the lever on you should have 4,000rpm.Dunno if it is the same with the V11's or how important it is.

But that's how it is said to be tunned, you may have to check it out.

[dlaing]

snip and just under 6,000 rpm on the clock (lever fully on) – and it stays where it's set.

Cruise control?

66179[/snapback]

I was going to ask WHY you did not just swap springs, but I suppose if the cruise control works, it was more than worth the effort.

Plus you got a big Bodge Point

[belfastguzzi]

I was going to ask WHY you did not just swap springs, but I suppose if the cruise control works, it was more than worth the effort.

Plus you got a big Bodge Point 

66446[/snapback]

 

Taking the seat latch spring off was not easy. On my cable, it had to be worked off the cable end bit by bit in a very fiddly fashion. I considered filing the cable end down a bit, but just gave-up a third of the way off, as I think that the spring is ok for the latch mechanism anyway (the more important thing there is getting the adjustments right – cable length and mechanism locking position).

 

It was simpler to just put a new spring on the idle mech and get something that was a good balance for it.

[dlaing]

I think I just "screwed" the spring off.

The switch took me about five minutes.

I never noticed a problem with rear latch.

But the switch allowed my fast idle to stay open reliably, but not a 6000rpms!

Your fix does appear to yield better results.

I'll have to take a look at improving mine.

[belfastguzzi]

"I think I just "screwed" the spring off."

> It wouldn't go. I don't think that the cable ends are precisely dimensioned

Mine had sticky-out bits that would have needed filed down to screw the spring off.

 

"The switch took me about five minutes."

> Prising and fiddling took me five minutes. <_>

 

"I never noticed a problem with rear latch."

> Me neither. This just makes it more positive and quicker to open.

 

"But the switch allowed my fast idle to stay open reliably, but not a 6000rpms!"

> Hehe. Start 'er up, wind 'er open and go, go, go

No worries about light flywheel jitters when she's locked on to 6k

 

"Your fix does appear to yield better results." >

 

"I'll have to take a look at improving mine."

> Paint it black.

[windchill]

And, curiously, the "choke" is one of the few bits of my Guz EVER to have worked properly from day one, and not to have fallen off (yet): which is more than can be said of the throttle bodies!!!

[Guest ratchethack]

"I think I just "screwed" the spring off."

> It wouldn't go. I don't think that the cable ends are precisely dimensioned

Mine had sticky-out bits that would have needed filed down to screw the spring off.

Belfast, I b'lieve what Dave is referring to is the practice of removing a spring from around a cable by "starting" the free end of the spring around the cable and just "screwing" it out. New springs go on same way. This way, it doesn't matter how large the cable end is, and you don't have to disconnect anything.

[Guest Nogbad]

Belfast, I b'lieve what Dave is referring to is the practice of removing a spring from around a cable by "starting" the free end of the spring around the cable and just "screwing" it out.  New springs go on same way.  This way, it doesn't matter how large the cable end is, and you don't have to disconnect anything.

66533[/snapback]

 

Yeah you just put the cable through the end of the spring coil (like putting a key on or off a keyring) then rotate the spring until it's off.

 

My straight swap took all of 10 minutes. I didn't bother adjusting the fast idle cam throw, 2500 rpm is enough to keep the engine alive on a cold day, who needs more?

[belfastguzzi]

Belfast, I b'lieve what Dave is referring to is the practice of removing a spring from around a cable by "starting" the free end of the spring around the cable and just "screwing" it out.  New springs go on same way.  This way, it doesn't matter how large the cable end is, and you don't have to disconnect anything.

66533[/snapback]

Yes thanks, I know and that's what I tried. The spring was too tight to turn around the angular cable end with any sort of ease. Looking at the photographs it's hard to believe: it looks like it should be easy to turn off, I just know it didn't want to go. I suppose I could have been enfeebled by some nearby green kryptonite, or a passing Tenni.

 

________________________

 

EDIT

[belfastguzzi]

Yeah you just put the cable through the end of the spring coil (like putting a key on or off a keyring) then rotate the spring until it's off.

66534[/snapback]

Of course! That's the way to do it. I definetly was enfeebled in the central processing unit. I guess that's what Ratchet and DL meant too

 

I didn't bother adjusting the fast idle cam throw, 2500 rpm is enough to keep the engine alive on a cold day, who needs more?

66534[/snapback]

 

Nobody. I never used the fast idle anyway. But, when it can be done, might as well do it.

 

Now you're making me doubt my use of TIME precious TIME last Sunday.

Somehow, this all came about because I decided to change tyres.

 

Hope I can get the wheels back on again

[Skeeve]

BTW - Who was the Masked Man who came up with "the swap"?

66178[/snapback]

 

Um, that would be me. [Ducks numerous projectiles.] Why, what did I win?