callison Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hey guys, are these the type of fuel line fittings on the newer tanks? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grossohc Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 No Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Those are for water- I bought a bunch of them for my lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waspp Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 similar concept but no. ford automotive fittings are close as well. I had to fab a new system as mine were broken off at the tank. waspp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hey guys, are these the type of fuel line fittings on the newer tanks? Just curious. 81194[/snapback] Carl, those look like the fuel fittings on my aprilia Falco. Had a tendency to come undone and leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callison Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 These are from Dennis Kirk. I thought maybe I'd run across another source of replacements but that looks to have been wishful thinking. I don't need any with my assortment of bikes, but others would. Sometimes, you just can't find the part commercially. The IC chip in the earlier tachs is such an item. There is no commercial source for the 14 pin type that I've ever been able to locate, likewise a pin-out for the little beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeokie Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Here's a (clickable) pic of the aprilia bits. Click it if you want to see other photos and a discussion of the shortcomings of this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgravelpha@aol.com Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I had similar fittings that came stock on my 1997 Triumph t595. Before selling the Triumph, I put 40,000+ miles on her and it did not leak once. I removed the tank at lease 10-12 times in that period of time. It made removing the tank simple and straight forward. These attchments are similar to ones that are used in labs but they have different types of orings for different chemical uses. I sell these at MCMaster-Carr. I'm pretty sure that you can get more info concerning application for different types of chemical for these fittings at mcmaster.com. Hope this was helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_roethlisberger Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I had similar fittings that came stock on my 1997 Triumph t595. Before selling the Triumph, I put 40,000+ miles on her and it did not leak once. I removed the tank at lease 10-12 times in that period of time. It made removing the tank simple and straight forward. These attchments are similar to ones that are used in labs but they have different types of orings for different chemical uses. I sell these at MCMaster-Carr. I'm pretty sure that you can get more info concerning application for different types of chemical for these fittings at mcmaster.com. Hope this was helpful. 81412[/snapback] Triumph recalled a bunch of those fittings. They were breaking due to the stress of repeated tank removal. I do not know which ones they replaced them with though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ratchethack Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I've had to shorten up my gas lines several times from repeat dismounting of the tank chewing up the hose. Looks like I gotta do sumpin' smarter pretty soon. I saved these BMW gas line quick-disconnect part numbers from way back when, intending to investigate, and never got a "round tuit". 1 331 7659 120 1 331 7659 119 Anyone have any experience with these? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Dave Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I've had to shorten up my gas lines several times from repeat dismounting of the tank chewing up the hose. Looks like I gotta do sumpin' smarter pretty soon. I saved these BMW gas line quick-disconnect part numbers from way back when, intending to investigate, and never got a "round tuit". 1 331 7659 120 1 331 7659 119 Anyone have any experience with these? TIA 81937[/snapback] Yeah, I put a set on my 2002 Le Mans about the same time this information was published, after the original clamp started seeping petrol. Absolutely no problems with them, what a pity the later pump in tank type connectors weren't as easy to disconnect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ratchethack Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yeah, I put a set on my 2002 Le Mans about the same time this information was published, after the original clamp started seeping petrol. Absolutely no problems with them, what a pity the later pump in tank type connectors weren't as easy to disconnect. Thanks, Dave. That does it - now I've finally got a "round tuit"!! EDIT: YIKES! I just found stock on these at my friendly local Bayerische Motoren Werke und Schnitzelbank parts department. A set of these little jewels with those lieblich "Black Forest" FI clamps comes to ~$100 USD, with state tax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc B Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 This is copied from the Vintage race list Marc I spent some time over the last couple of days looking at the fuel line dry-break quick disconnect couplers I've got, and I thought I would share my findings. It appears these couplings (as commonly sold by various aftermarket motorcycle places) are made by: http://www.colder.com http://www.colder.com/asp_main/GeneralPurp...asticProducts.a sp http://www.colder.com/asp_main/FeaturesBenefits/PLCFBInd.asp These are CPC's PLC series, made of acetal. The PLC series is good for -40->180F and 120 psi of vacuum. According to their product info, acetal is "excellent" for unleaded gasoline and also seems excellent for acetone, benzene, ethanol, and methanol, so maybe we can use it on our fuel drag bikes. I note that some of the packages on the couplers are marked "viton" and others aren't. The standard o-ring is Buna-N so they may have supplied those in the earlier days and then wised up to the fact that the Buna-N didn't hold up that well. I know I've had several O-rings swell up to the point where they tore when I pushed the coupler back together. They do have metal couplers (aluminum and chrome-plated brass - might be a bling bling auto/motorcycle market for those) as well as multiple line couplers and other whizzo things. Replacement O-rings are offered for 80 cents each by the motorcycle places which seemed a bit high so I pulled some of the O-rings off and measured them. It appears the 1/4" connector uses a #008 O-ring and the 5/16" appears to use a #011 ring. A bag of 100 #008 Viton O-rings (5/16" OD x 1/16" stock) from MSC (09265083) is $8.36 A bag of 100 #011 Viton O-rings (7/16" OD x 1/16" stock) from MSC (09265117) is $10.24. MSC has four pages (4196 seems to be for this line) of CPC products and you have to order either side seperately: 1/4 hose barb body $8.22, insert: shutoff $8.07, straight through $1.73 5/16 hose barb body $8.22, insert: shutoff $8.07, straight through $1.77 Chrome-plated brass are roughly $22, $14, and $6.36 There are right-angle inserts too, as well as couplers with NPT threads An aftermarket place sells the single sided 5/16 for $16.95 and the double 5/16 for $21.50 $5-6 savings per coupler would add up pretty quick, and certainly pays for the bag of spare o-rings (since they'd come with Buna-N it might be best to just swap them out right at the start). I feel like this was actually a productive way to spend an hour or so this morning. cheers, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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