jihem Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 hi, this may have little things to do with a V11, but in fact, it is closely related as most of my ideas come when i ride my bike...I know, some of you will want me to stop riding the weathermen are releasing "Embedded With The Weathermen". It is available in Europe on our website, thru FireZone records and Urgence Disks, and in the US and Canada thru CD Baby how to describe it ? It is electronic music with witty lyrics, and if you like(d) Devo, Aphex Twins, Depeche Mode, Tuxedo Moon or Front 242, you may enjoy it. anyway, just give it a listen jihem:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not_scooter_Scura! Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 hi, this may have little things to do with a V11, but in fact, it is closely related as most of my ideas come when i ride my bike...I know, some of you will want me to stop riding the weathermen are releasing "Embedded With The Weathermen". It is available in Europe on our website, thru FireZone records and Urgence Disks, and in the US and Canada thru CD Baby how to describe it ? It is electronic music with witty lyrics, and if you like(d) Devo, Aphex Twins, Depeche Mode, Tuxedo Moon or Front 242, you may enjoy it. anyway, just give it a listen jihem:) 81387[/snapback] cool! but was'nt it 'Aphex Twin' ? I thought that was the whole point of the term.... but yeah a little inspired by his later albums. I wonder songs the Guzzi would inspire me to write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 cool! but was'nt it 'Aphex Twin' ? I though that was the whole point of the term.... 81402[/snapback] Correct if you only buy one copy. If you buy two well then ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Hey fellow motorcyclists. This is the Moth Forum – it's for bugs and stuff, not for pop-combo chit-chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hey fellow motorcyclists. This is the Moth Forum – it's for bugs and stuff, not for pop-combo chit-chat. 81409[/snapback] aah, you'll be looking for Aimee Mann, then. See track 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Naw! Belfast is looking for Moth Girl to sip some nectar with. That's what those Moth people do you know!! MOTH GIRL SIPS EARTHFLOWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Then there is Crocodile Girl ..... ....... and Ferry Man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 now that's just creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 aah, you'll be looking for Aimee Mann, then. See track 10. 81414[/snapback] I say – there seem to be attractive discounts on Aimee Mann CDs! Don't know about the quality of her Moth track, but the Pavlov's Bell track caught my eye – as I immediately thought of Pavlov's Dog. I'm sure that a man like yourself must have at least one Pavlov's Dog in your LP collection? Hopefully Pampered Menial with lovely Julia on it. Mind you, you couldn't go too far wrong with At The Sound Of The Bell, either. Of course, the Belfast Cowboy has his long delayed country album out now. Nice Question: Why hasn't the V.11 board got a Music Forum on it?? (Gotta keep this post on the right subject for Moth Forum – no idle chit-chat here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Well, I can't say I have any pavlov's dog, but I have rather a bunch of Van's albums. Hmm, Pandorahasn't heard of them either. You pulling my leg here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Well, I can't say I have any pavlov's dog, but I have rather a bunch of Van's albums. Hmm, Pandorahasn't heard of them either. You pulling my leg here? 81541[/snapback] I wouldn't touch your leg, 'cause I know it would probably come off in my hands, officer. But hey – good grief – that Pandora ain't even heard of David Ackles – so not much hope of 'er knowing David Surkamp and his pooch. You gotta find this vinyl, JR. I did a bit of searching, but it's hard to find any mp3s. There's a bit on here, though you can't tell much from the short samples. The great albums that time forgot Typical. You form a band around two Mellotron players and a chap who sings in a strange, quavery falsetto and .. almost nobody notices. What's wrong with people? Pavlov's Dog - At the Sound of the Bell (CBS 81163) Tracks: She Came Shining / Standing Here With You / Mersey / Valkerie / Try To Hang On / Gold Nuggets / She Breaks Like A Morning Sky / Early Morning On / Did You See Him Cry Currently Available: Tricky-to-get German import available through specialists such as CTFT Singles extracted: None Recorded: Record Plant, New York Producers: Sandy Pearlman with Murray Krugman Released: April 1976 Chart Peak: None Personnel: David Surkamp (vocals, guitar), Douglas Rayburn (mellotron, bass), Steve Scorfina (lead guitar), David Hamilton (keyboards), Richard Stockton (bass), Thomas Nickerson (guitar, harmonies). Also: Bill Bruford (drums), Andy Mackay, Michael Brecker (sax), Mike Abene, George Gerich (organ), Les Nicol, Elliot Randall (guitar), Gavyn Wright (violin), Paul Prestopino (mandolin), High Wycombe Boy's Choir In 1973 in St Louis, Missouri - birthplace of Chuck Berry - something strange was occurring. Amid the blues'n'boogie bands of the Midwest an altogether different noise was erupting. This band had a Mellotron, a crazed violinist and a vocalist who sang at a pitch previously charted only by Tiny Tim in excitable moments. But this was no freakshow. Underpinned by the songwriting craft of the singer - one David Surkamp - and a storming live show, Pavlov's Dog were the most innovative act to come out of St Louis since, well, Chuck Berry. Word about them reached industry ears and ABC duly shelled out $600,000, the highest advance of 1974. This for musicians who, save for the guitarist, formerly of REO Speedwagon, had no track record. "Basically we were very good", says Surkamp today. "If a band had us supporting and they weren't up to the mark, they had a problem. Someone like the Jefferson Starship were fine, but if you were Steppenwolf, a bit iffy, we were very hard to follow." In their home town, Pavlov's Dog could headline to 10,000. The first album, Pampered Menial, produced by Sandy Pearlman of Blue Oyster Cult fame, was a startling debut. While Surkamp's keening vocals alarmed some, the intensity of his delivery, the passion of the playing and the uniqueness of the sound marked them out. Today it's their best remembered record, still widely available through Sony. But the Dog were a volatile bunch and frictions were mounting amid the ceaseless touring. "The rehearsals for the second album began disastrously and we took the decision to sack the drummer, Mike Safron," says Surkamp. With him went his ally, violinist Siegfried Carver. The band carried on rehearsing at Surkamp's parents' home. For the vacant drum stool, Surkamp tracked down the best percussionist he could think of - Bill Bruford. Then a veteran of Yes and King Crimson, Bruford was in his brief sessions phase when he played for Gong, Roy Harper and Annette Peacock. "I'd never heard of them," says Bruford today of the Dog, "but I got the call and American sessions tended to pay better. I did four day's recording. It was a positive experience. David seemed to be on the case and knew what he wanted." Surkamp remembers Bruford as a useful ally amid the conflicting ambitions of the band. The album they created missed the soaring fiddle of Carver but improved on the debut by being almost entirely written by Surkamp; Pampered Menial had dipped where others tried their hand and side two featured some rather stiff playing. At The Sound Of The Bell has two elements: there are carefully crafted pop-rock songs such as the opener, She Came Shining, or the fragile Standing Here With You. There are also some splendid full-on prog rock epics where producer Pearlman lobs in strings, sleigh-bells and overdriven keyboards. In England, Pearlman overdubbed the High Wycombe Boy's Choir on to a couple of tracks after Surkamp had been unable to find a suitable choir in the US. Elsewhere Andy Mackay of Roxy Music delivers an immediately recognisable sax solo - and Michael Brecker an atypical one (Surkamp had wanted David Sanborn for the gig). At 33 minutes, the album is a little too short - Surkamp blames the pressure of touring. The record's only weak moment is the humdrum MOR of Scorfina's Mersey. "I had to put one on to keep him happy", says Surkamp. Critics have assumed that the band, with its two Mellotrons, were influenced by the English prog outfits of the day - Genesis or Yes - but the singer's affections lay elsewhere. "I listened to English music, but my roots are in folk. I thought Fairport Convention were brilliant. I also liked Robert Wyatt and Family a lot". The band went out gigging again with a new drummer but Surkamp was losing heart. The album did not take off. "I suppose we were just too strange. It was a time when everything was a real formula, which I can't stand, people like Foreigner and Boston doing a very normal rock thing." In Britain, the dawn of punk would render the heart-on-sleeve romanticism of Surkamp's writing terminally unhip. A third contractual-obligation album eventually slipped out - never released here. Surkamp disowned it. He moved to Seattle for most of a decade before returning to St. Louis. He has worked as a journalist, made a reunion album and enjoyed a long collaboration with Iain Matthews of the Fairports. Today he gigs locally with a band including his wife Sarah and is thinking about another record. But the promise of At The Sound Of The Bell has never been fully realised. "Maybe I didn't want to be a rock star enough." he says. "I guess you really have to want to be one." John Bungey (MOJO #56 - July 1998) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Christ, yer goin' all Ratchet on us there BFG (no offence Ratchethack... ) Don't matter that pandora didn't have it. My favorite Russian music server does have it. Both of them. I'll download Pampered Menial and give it a listen. Boy do I love that mellotron. Sure am looking forward to hearing that. Almost as much as a glass armonica or a perhaps a theramin. Say, I bet you'd like the Reverand Horton Heat- ever heard of him? Nogbad, it's like country swing, but on speed and LSD. And maybe cocaine...and some more speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 My favorite Russian music server does have it. Both of them. I'll download Pampered Menial and give it a listen. 81651[/snapback] That's the link I gave you above – didn't you read the post, thoroughly? Those Russian dowloads seem to be very cheap? ?? ?? A whole album seems to be less than a dollar and a single track is nothing at all really? Am I reading that American money right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 How do you expect me to read the whole post? I'm only half-way through moby @#$$#! (don't tell me how it ends). And yes ,the Russian sever is about 10% in cost; my understanding is that they don't pay the same royalties as western states. Anyhow- Pavlov's dog just peed on my harddrive. I mean....these guys wear makeup, don't they? Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastguzzi Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 1) How do you expect me to read the whole post? 2) I'm only half-way through moby @#$$#! (don't tell me how it ends). 81666[/snapback] 1) It was up at the top! 2) The whale gets it. 3) Anyhow- Pavlov's dog just peed on my harddrive. 4) I mean....these guys wear makeup, don't they? Am I right? 81666[/snapback] 3) Cheap Rusky sites 4) Ointment. It's an American thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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