Rear Brake Pads

[Guest Buddy]

What mileage are you getting from the rear brake pads on your V11 Sport? Also any recommendations for a better wearing pad? I have been told that brake pads wear faster in the wet (frequent conditions where I live).

[belfastguzzi]

5,600 miles before OEM totally worn away.

Replaced with EBC FA47, about £12

[DeBenGuzzi]

5,600 miles before OEM totally worn away.

Replaced with EBC FA47, about £12

90573[/snapback]

jesus, how much do you use yours BFG? mine are still ok at 14K, I'm sure I need new ones soon but damn.

[belfastguzzi]

It has sometimes been commented on here, that US V.11s often seem to be ridden in very different conditions and on very different types of roads and perhaps in different styles to British / Irish road & riding conditions. I'd guess that a lot of people in UK are getting about 6,000m on OE pads. Though, some people have claimed that they never use their rear brakes.

Martin Barrett's rule of thumb is a new set of brake pads needed at every tyre change. So: 5 - 6,000 miles? Seems about right.

[belfastguzzi]

I see from a previous post that new EBC front pads that I fitted were the same thickness, new, as OE Brembos with 6,000 miles on them (4mm). Apparently Ferodo Platinums are 6mm, so maybe Brembos are 6mm when new too.

 

From previous post, Guzzirider is getting 3,000 miles on rear pads, but they are thinner Carbon Lorraine EBCs.

 

10,000 miles for front?

[Guest ratchethack]

Many's the V11 rear brake pad that's gone south prematurely - my own included - until I discovered the infamous V11 rear brake heat-drag cycle caused by the under-swingarm caliper/hanging piston/old brake fluid combination that conspires to do them in.....

 

As discussed recently here: http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6951&hl=

[belfastguzzi]

Many's the V11 rear brake pad that's gone south prematurely until I discovered the infamous V11 rear brake heat-drag cycle caused by the under-swingarm caliper/hanging piston/old brake fluid combination that conspires to do them in....

90577[/snapback]

My brake fluid is good, calipers / pistons well maintained and rotor in good condition.

[Guest ratchethack]

My brake fluid is good, calipers / pistons well maintained and rotor in good condition.

Outstanding, BFG!

 

Sorry, can't comment on the effects of Irish weather......

 

FWIW, the Road Geez rear brake pads of choice are Ferodo Platinum (4 mm), 6100 mi out of the last set & generally not used much except in long mountain descents.....they get a serious workout, though - got another one today coming down off Mt. Palomar and again on the downhill pitches of Mesa Grande. Yep - the 200 inch Hale reflector scope's still up there....(many times I just hafta go check to make sure)

 

BTW - came across a BIG DUDE who had to be taken down off Mesa Grande via ambulance after dumping his Road King on the baddest, sharpest kink up there (single vehicle accident.....) I stopped and asked if he needed help, but he had already cell-phoned the ambulance. He was pretty bloody, head split open (no helmet) and looked like he broke his wrist and a few fingers, but he was walking around OK. Somebody had already stopped and helped him hoist the beast off the tarmac...... stuff like this happens all summer long up there......

 

I reckon he threw out the anchor too late. Most of 'em go over the side at that particular turn......

 

Shiny side up, Gents!

[dlaing]

I clean the piston every rear tire (4000 to 5000 miles) and replace the pads every two tires.

I could probably go three tires, but the pad insulates against heat boiling the fluid, so it is good to keep it thick.

My OEM pads wore out very quickly, before learning to clean the caliber piston.

I imagine if I cleaned the piston every 2000miles, I could get more life out of the pads, but the pads are cheap compared to what I would charge myself for labor

Meanwhile the front OEM brake pads have plenty of life left after well more than 30,000 miles.

[DeBenGuzzi]

I clean the piston every rear tire (4000 to 5000 miles) and replace the pads every two tires.

I could probably go three tires, but the pad insulates against heat boiling the fluid, so it is good to keep it thick.

My OEM pads wore out very quickly, before learning to clean the caliber piston.

I imagine if I cleaned the piston every 2000miles, I could get more life out of the pads, but the pads are cheap compared to what I would charge myself for labor

Meanwhile the front OEM brake pads have plenty of life left after well more than 30,000 miles.

90581[/snapback]

what a relief, here I am sitting thinking, (are my brakes shot??) I'll give them a good look over tomorrow, wheres a good place to get replacements?

[Steve G.]

The stock ones lasted about 5,000kms. The SBS replacements are still in there, at 34,000 kms! And no more grouning. Enough said.

Ciao, Steve G.

[Martin Barrett]

As said by BFG, new rear tyre new rear pads.

 

Yesterday I had to take the pedal off and grease the spindle as this is where the friction was preventing its smooth and quick return. I was thinking I'd have to rebuild the master cyclinder, but this was so much easier.

 

I also had to do the same with the side stand pivot bolt , that had seized solid whole bolt was turning. These really are assembled dry at the factory.

 

I use the Ferodo Platinum pads and have big policeman feet and a heavy bike ladden down with my donut and assorted pastries created long range hump.

 

I'd rather replace pads than disks. My last set which I replaced yesterday were actually EBC as sorced from a local shop. There seemed to be more rotor wear, but this might also be due to the sticking lever. It also might improve my recent fuel comsumption drop.

 

I don't know what the cost of a Brembo rotor will be, but it must be nearly 10 years ago it cost £120 plus vat 17% to replace one of my ventalated front disks on my FJ1200 genuine part and at the same time £60 to replace both ventalated discs and pads on my VW Scirocco partern parts.

[dlaing]

wheres a good place to get replacements?

90592[/snapback]

Your friendly forum sponsor

or here is my unverified research on brake pad part numbers

Please verify before ordering

...and if anyone knows other than what I posted, please post corrections.

 

FERODO

FDB207P Ferodo Platinum compound for F05 calipers & spine frame rears $24.50

FDB207S Ferodo Sintered compound for spine frame rears, stainless only $33.50

 

SBS

Front - SBS 566

Rear - SBS 519

followed by the suffix HF, HS, LF, or LS.

H for front high friction

L for rear low friction

F for easier on rotors

S for sintered

so for the rear I would go with SBS-519LF

I recently installed 20 year old SBS V65 brake pads, and they seem fine...I should have saved the number...

EBC

EBC front

FA244* kevlar

FA244HH* sintered

 

EBC rear

FA47 kevlar

FA47HH sintered

 

EBC front rotors

MD2003LS

MD2003RS

 

 

Here are some Ducati REAR that should cross reference

350 / 400SS 1990 - 1998

Monster 400 2000 - 2005

600SS 1994 - 1999

Monster 600 1994 - 2001

Monster 620 2002 - 2005

Monster 620 Dark 2002 - 2005

Monster 620S 2002 - 2005

620S 2003 - 2005

Multistrada 620 2005 - 2006

Multistrada 620 Dark 2005 - 2006

748SP 1995 - 1997

748 Biposto 1995 - 2001

750SS 1991 - 1998

Monster 750 1996 - 1999

Monster 800 2003 - 2005

Monster 800S 2003 - 2005

Monster 800 Dark 2003 - 2005

Monster S2R 800 2005 - 2006

Monster S2R 800 Dark 2005 - 2006

900SS 1990 - 1997

900SL 1993 - 1999

Monster 900 1993 - 1999

916 1994 - 1998

996 Biposto 1999

Monster 1000 2003 - 2005

Monster 1000S 2003 - 2005

Monster 1000 Cromo 2003 - 2005

Monster 1000 Dark 2003 - 2005

Monster S2R 1000 2005 - 2006

[Guest Nogbad]

8000 miles OEM rear. Front still plenty of meat at 12000. I guess the pads need doing at the back every new tyre, but I do use my rear brake as a speed controller in town riding to avoid torque reversals when making tight turns, especially in the wet and that probably wears it out more quickly.

[wambiker]

I often help out in my mates bike shop when the workshop is busy or or one of the two mechanics is missing, and when I was looking up the back pads in the ebc catalouge was amused to see that most of the listings for this pad where for scooters. As you can imagine when I went to the shelf to dig them out of stock the other mechanics where in bulk. There bloody scooter pads your putting in your tractor was the main cry from the workshop-this from a mechanic with a 70's trident (grenade) and a modern enfield(where the queen keeps her chickens?) ! The shop does a lot of work with old brits , we could probably build a new commando or bonnie from bits(god forbid what the cost would be ) as well as a dealership for enfields, MuZ and most japs. My guzzi purchase as you can imagine has prompted great amusement and stick. But the trident has yet to beat me to local bike meeting through some good twisty roads

As with Martin my pads last about the same as a back tyre, but as yet not in time with each other. To avoid major disc wear avoid the ebc HH pads as these appear to be really abrasive to discs from evidence off front jap fittments. Will look up pattern discs when I get a chance, but as the disc appears very similar to rear monster ones (will cross reference fitting) I would imagine patterns are available from the likes of ebc, or even original brembos are probably cheaper than guzzi relabled parts.

Cheers Gary