melandri and capirossi

[jihem]

Add in the fact that we're not likely to see Max Biaggi ever again, and the tears start to flow from my little, green beady eyes.

 

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anything new about him ? last i've heard, he was busy working his way back...

 

 

jihem

[v50man]

anything new about him ? last i've heard, he was busy working his way back...

jihem

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I think he's mostly in Los Angeles riding supermoto to stay in shape. The success of kids like Stoner and Pedrosa does not bode well for him.

 

However, a trained eye would notice that all these new kids emulate Max style-wise. VERY smooth and controlled -- nice corner speed -- etc.

 

We shall see. I wish Max the best, as he is still my all-time favorite racer. Realistically, though, I don't expect to see him in Moto GP again. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[gthyni]

of course there is politics in MotoGP

 

when recruting there riders the manufactures looks at:

- riding ability

- future potiential

- ability to give development input

- AND market penetration

 

the teams look for:

- riding ability

- sponsorship appeal

- what Dorna wants

 

the sponsors looks for

- market penetration

 

different weight in different teams but all factors are there

the richest HRC/Repsol team looks for world champion material

but still doesn't ignore which countries are the biggest markets

for Honda sportbikes.

 

D'Antin and Team3 need to look at sponsorship, bike suppliers and Dorna subsidaries

and runs Hoffman and Ellison to cover big european markets.

 

Suzuki is somewhere in the middle, no shot at the title, they go for maximum exposure

in key markets. John Hopkins, dubbed Anglo-American, is perfect in that way.

 

Noone who has been that long in MotoGP with so little success is still there

except JH. Many riders who haven't had the best bikes/tyres/teams has still managed

to get the odd podium, I looked only the MotoGP era, 2002 and forward.

 

Carlos Checa, 7 podiums

Shinya Nakano, 2 podiums

Kenny Roberts, 2 podiums

Colin Edwards, 6 podiums

Makoto Tamada, 5 podiums (2 wins)

 

Regarding my comments on JH's ability to ride on worn tyres,

look at Vermuelen who while seldom matches Hopkins on fresh

tyres often matches or undercuts JH's lap times at the 2nd half of the races.

 

With the young guns storming into MotoGP, with Pedrosa and Stoner this year

and surely madman Jorge Lorenzo next year, time should be running out for

Hopkins in MotoGP, unless politics played it's part in the decision making.

[v50man]

of course there is politics in MotoGP

 

when recruting there riders the manufactures looks at:

- riding ability

- future potiential

- ability to give development input

- AND market penetration

 

the teams look for:

- riding ability

- sponsorship appeal

- what Dorna wants

 

the sponsors looks for

- market penetration

 

different weight in different teams but all factors are there

the richest HRC/Repsol team looks for world champion material

but still doesn't ignore which countries are the biggest markets

for Honda sportbikes.

 

D'Antin and Team3 need to look at sponsorship, bike suppliers and Dorna subsidaries

and runs Hoffman and Ellison to cover big european markets.

 

Suzuki is somewhere in the middle, no shot at the title, they go for maximum exposure

in key markets. John Hopkins, dubbed Anglo-American, is perfect in that way.

 

Noone who has been that long in MotoGP with so little success is still there

except JH. Many riders who haven't had the best bikes/tyres/teams has still managed

to get the odd podium, I looked only the MotoGP era, 2002 and forward.

 

Carlos Checa, 7 podiums

Shinya Nakano, 2 podiums

Kenny Roberts, 2 podiums

Colin Edwards, 6 podiums

Makoto Tamada, 5 podiums (2 wins)

 

Regarding my comments on JH's ability to ride on worn tyres,

look at Vermuelen who while seldom matches Hopkins on fresh

tyres often matches or undercuts JH's lap times at the 2nd half of the races.

 

With the young guns storming into MotoGP, with Pedrosa and Stoner this year

and surely madman Jorge Lorenzo next year, time should be running out for

Hopkins in MotoGP, unless politics played it's part in the decision making.

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Well, alright then. Point (mostly) taken.

[gthyni]

The Doctor did it again,

win Sachsenring GP from 11 spot on the grid.

 

and sports at Materazzi-shirt on the podium

[g.forrest]

thanks for that..i'm still staying up to watch it though.

The Doctor did it again,

win Sachsenring GP from 11 spot on the grid.

 

and sports at Materazzi-shirt on the podium

[gthyni]

thanks for that..i'm still staying up to watch it though.

 

oops,

but you should read these threads if you are going to watch a delayed broadcast.

Stoner was refused to start after a hard crash on warm-up, so if you stay up to cheer

for him, you can go to bed now. It was a great race otherwise.

[g.forrest]

thanks for that..i'm still staying up to watch it though.

apart from that...a pole on another forum.[ could rossi still take the season?] got a 87 percent yes vote.

 

 

apart from that...a pole on another forum.[ could rossi still take the season?] got a 87 percent yes vote.

thats ok. i knew that casey was out.

[gthyni]

he certainly can, 26 points behind with 7 races to go.

Think it will be decided in the finale in Valencia.

 

I plan to be at Valencia GP in person,

anyone else have such plans?

[antonio carroccio]

Goran, I have a lot of respect for il dottore, but ,WHAT A HELL I want Capirex to wake up!!!

Let's start hope Vale goes to Ducati next time (2008) <_>