Gearbox troubles

[dbdicker]

Took the bike out this morning.

 

Low oil, put a quart in. Rode about 250 miles, 90 degree heat, fast coming home around 80mph mostly.

 

As I'm coming to a toll booth, I cannot seem to get it out of 3rd down to 2nd and ultimately Neutral. Just like the spring was broken, it just had no click to the motion. all gears from 3rd on up to 6th available, but even with all my tricks of feathering the throttle while downshifting or shifting up to go down, still cannot get it under 3rd gear.

 

Pulled into home. Waited for the bike to cool off and it snicked right into 2nd and then Neutral.

 

Any thoughts? Advice?

 

Boy, i'm running out of patience with this device.....although that 250 miles was pretty sweet. Ducati GT1000 looking awful good as a trade..........

[Murray]

When was the oil in the final drive and gearbox last changed maybe change it yourself just to be sure. On my 1100 sport with the old five speed smash and grab the shift quality certianly goes south when the oil goes off espcailly int he final drive and it usally goes at around 5000km's. Now when you said low oil was that the motor or the gearbox? techincally you should check the oil when hot rather than cold but thats probally of not much consequence. The other thing might be that the hydralic clutch is in need of a flush and bleed. I'd also check that the uni crosses are lined as per the manual espcailly if you have had a rear tyre changed recently. While we are checking simple obious stuff the linkages are all nice and tight?

[jrt]

Have you ever cleaned and greased the shifter and actuator? It was sticky and dirty on mine (cue porn music) until I greased it up. Now it's slick as goose sh!t.

[dbdicker]

When was the oil in the final drive and gearbox last changed maybe change it yourself just to be sure. On my 1100 sport with the old five speed smash and grab the shift quality certianly goes south when the oil goes off espcailly int he final drive and it usally goes at around 5000km's. Now when you said low oil was that the motor or the gearbox? techincally you should check the oil when hot rather than cold but thats probally of not much consequence. The other thing might be that the hydralic clutch is in need of a flush and bleed. I'd also check that the uni crosses are lined as per the manual espcailly if you have had a rear tyre changed recently. While we are checking simple obious stuff the linkages are all nice and tight?

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Had the rear tire swapped VERY recently. What's this about? Tell me what and how to check........ this sounds interesting....

[Murray]

Oh this will be fun over the internet, there should be something about this in your owners manual. Basically the uni joint crosses should be lined up so when you look from one end of the shaft they both look like + + or X X but if they look like + X thats bad. During a rear tyre change sometimes the driveshaft splines can come apart as there is no rear axel to locate the final drive. If when they guy doing the tyre change puts it back together doesn't take the time to line up the joints on the spline it can introduce all sorts of intresting symptoms into the motor and gearbox. Worse on the older spine framed bikes with the shorter shaft it would do all sorts of ugly things to the ouput bearing of the gearbox over time. I don't know if its so critical on the new ones but basically the two uni's end up working against each other. The older bikes had about half a page dedicated to saying things like it is critical the uni crosses are lined up.

 

Hopefull thats vaguely makes sense, I'd be changing the final drive and gear oil anyway.

[DeBenGuzzi]

Ducati GT1000 looking awful good as a trade..........

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I hope you would be ready to pay 500+ a year and almost 1000 every 2 if you ride it enough for scheduled matience. Ducati's have a horrid cost of ownership. The more work you can do yourself the more they become worth it, as for me completely not worth it (as you can see from my bodgery I'm hardly a mechanic)

I think you were just unlucky enough to buy a scura

[dbdicker]

I hope you would be ready to pay 500+ a year and almost 1000 every 2 if you ride it enough for scheduled matience. Ducati's have a horrid cost of ownership. The more work you can do yourself the more they become worth it, as for me completely not worth it (as you can see from my bodgery I'm hardly a mechanic)

I think you were just unlucky enough to buy a scura 

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to heck with that, the Guzzi's been worth it all, I'll defend it.......New Ducatis have 7500 mile valve intervals, 1st service is mere oil change.......the new 1000 dual spark motor is much better than previous ones and mostly bullet proof.....

 

I'll check the obvious stuff first on my (beautiful) Scura, thanks.

[biesel]

maybe ...

[GuzzBun]

Took the bike out this morning. 

 

I cannot seem to get it out of 3rd down to 2nd and ultimately Neutral.

Pulled into home.  Waited for the bike to cool off and it snicked right into 2nd and then Neutral.

Any thoughts?  Advice?

Ducati GT1000 looking awful good as a trade..........

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Had the spring go on my Scura 4 times in 23000 miles. Couple of weeks ago the familiar symtoms presented again - only 2000 miles after replacing the spring and spigot! Twiggers in Loughborough diagnosed the problem - not the spring or spigot, but this time the shift linkage 'rose joints' ( I know them as 'ball and socket joints') Apparently they have nylon innards, and they were worn badly, causing the gear pedal linkage to become stiff and fail to return to its proper position after making a gearchange. They replaced the joints and all is well. I expect that it would be entirely OK to replace the balljoints with metal ones as fitted on earlier models, then regular greasing will prevent re-occurrence.

 

Sun shining, leathers sweating and bikes humming - is there anything riding can't do?

[belfastguzzi]

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[DeBenGuzzi]

to heck with that, the Guzzi's been worth it all, I'll defend it.......New Ducatis have 7500 mile valve intervals, 1st service is mere oil change.......the new 1000 dual spark motor is much better than previous ones and mostly bullet proof.....

 

I'll check the obvious stuff first on my (beautiful) Scura,  thanks.

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my post was all in good fun, I was posing a senario that would discourage you from going to ducati and my basis for service was on thier supersport line not the dual spark normal line. ie the 749 and 999 have those kinds of costs.

and the scura just lends itself to be made fun of, though I think they are great looking.

[beauchemin]

Ducati GT1000 looking awful good as a trade..........

 

I hear you. My V11 is sold, and I hope to pick up my GT next week. I've done a lot of research into the DS1000 motor - it appears to be a sweet motor.