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[dlaing]

So, what have you found to like about Tx Redneck?

Looks like he's coming up short....

He is funny to the max

[Guest Nogbad]

I disagree.

While I respect people just for their value as human beiing, and I certainly respect everyone here to the degree that they have some positive qualities,

 

That's very big of you.

 

I don't respect thought patterns that deviate from my thought patterns.

 

Neither did Joe Stalin, Ayatollah Khomeini, Pat Robertson or the entire Fox News organisation. (Is this the company you want to be keeping?)

 

Respectability is relative to ones perspective.

 

Partially agree only. I think there are absolute qualities deserving of respect outside any social or political paradigm

 

Often the term is used as political lip service, usually before or after fucching them over.

 

Example?

 

While I have respect for some aspect of everyone on this forum, I don't respect cruelty, irrationallity, selfishness, heartlessness, close-mindedness and many other negative characteristics.

While I should have the respecting love and tolerance of the parent of a defective child, I don't.

Respect is initially granted, it can be earned, and it can be revoked or foreited.

 

Cruelty is quite easy to identify but irrationality is context dependent. I consider you irrational on global warming, and rational on most other things I see you write. Selfishness? again, unless you are a fundamentalist Christian I would ask relative to what? If you are FC, shouldn't you give all your money to the poor and expect reward in heaven? Heartlessness? What is that anyway? There are people who consider me heartless because I hate pets and am unmoved by ickle kittens. Closed-mindedness? Remove the beam from your own eye mate.

 

You can only give or revoke your own respect for someone or something. Respect can also be collective.

[Frenchbob]

That's very big of you.

Neither did Joe Stalin, Ayatollah Khomeini, Pat Robertson or the entire Fox News organisation. (Is this the company you want to be keeping?)

Partially agree only. I think there are absolute qualities deserving of respect outside any social or political paradigm

Example?

Cruelty is quite easy to identify but irrationality is context dependent. I consider you irrational on global warming, and rational on most other things I see you write. Selfishness? again, unless you are a fundamentalist Christian I would ask relative to what? If you are FC, shouldn't you give all your money to the poor and expect reward in heaven? Heartlessness? What is that anyway? There are people who consider me heartless because I hate pets and am unmoved by ickle kittens. Closed-mindedness? Remove the beam from your own eye mate.

 

You can only give or revoke your own respect for someone or something. Respect can also be collective.

 

[not so stupid]

[Guzzirider]

Tex makes me laugh- he has done this before- make a post like this, sit back, put his feet up and let chaos and arguments erupt!

 

Guy

[dlaing]

Neither did Joe Stalin, Ayatollah Khomeini, Pat Robertson or the entire Fox News organisation. (Is this the company you want to be keeping?)

Perfect example.

Why should I respect someone who equates me with those people.

Do you respect those people?

Or are your ideas dissimilar?

Your politics are somewhat similar to that of Fox News, and my respect for you is similar to my respect for Fox News.

Your respect for me is no greater than my respect for you.

You are deceiving yourself if you think otherwise.

The reason for the disrespect is that our relative truths are different.

You think you are right and I am wrong....that is a lack of respect, and understandable from your point of view.

We both do it, but neither of us is a brutal dictator.

There is a difference between respecting and tolerating.

The trouble with people like George Bush, Joe Stalin, etc., is not their lack of respect for their victims, but their lack of toleration.

An example of the lip service respect is George Bush saying,

"America is a friend to the people of Iraq. Our demands are directed only at the regime that enslaves them and threatens us. When these demands are met, the first and greatest benefit will come to Iraqi men, women and children."

Israel attacking Lebanon has little to do with respect, it is all about their intolerance of those who stand up to them.

Likewise those who stand up to them do so because of a lack of toleration.

FWIW, I tolerate you, Nogbad.

[dlaing]

Cruelty is quite easy to identify but irrationality is context dependent. I consider you irrational on global warming, and rational on most other things I see you write. Selfishness? again, unless you are a fundamentalist Christian I would ask relative to what? If you are FC, shouldn't you give all your money to the poor and expect reward in heaven? Heartlessness? What is that anyway? There are people who consider me heartless because I hate pets and am unmoved by ickle kittens. Closed-mindedness? Remove the beam from your own eye mate.

 

You can only give or revoke your own respect for someone or something. Respect can also be collective.

Was that your definition of respect?

You revoked your respect for me with regards to global warming???

Or do you respect me for appearing irrational????

Is it because our thought patterns were different????

What kind of Hitler are you???

Come on French Bob, get off your fence posing like a chicken.

Which am I like? All of the people Nog mentioned?

Pat Robertson? Fox News?

You are another who I have just lost respect for.

 

Respect can also be collective.

Sorry, I don't understand. Care to elaborate?

[dlaing]

I think that the extreme muslims don't really not much better and even if they have some kind of schooling it isn't too far past the 4th grade level of most other nations. Althought creationist are verging on that same level of avoiding all scientific knowledge as hoopaju. Everyone has crazies. I dunno.

Why does the grammar policeman ignore this and pick on me?

[Guest Nogbad]

Why does the grammar policeman ignore this and pick on me?

 

He's young......

[Guest Nogbad]

Was that your definition of respect?

You revoked your respect for me with regards to global warming???

 

Not at all. I don't think a lively debate need really affect respect. I respect you and your rights and tolerate your views. I happen to think they are wrong on GW, and I can't see how supporting Al Gore can be rational, but it wouldn't affect my willingness to save your life!

 

Or do you respect me for appearing irrational????

Is it because our thought patterns were different????

What kind of Hitler are you???

 

Whether you appear irrational or not doesn't affect my respect for you.

 

Come on French Bob, get off your fence posing like a chicken.

Which am I like? All of the people Nog mentioned?

Pat Robertson? Fox News?

 

My examples, rather specifically, were chosen to show that a failure to value other people when their thoughts are different from yours is a characteristic you share with some unsavoury individuals with whom I doubt you feel comfortable being associated.

 

You are another who I have just lost respect for.

 

Why? Because he has the temerity to disagree with you?

 

Sorry, I don't understand. Care to elaborate?

 

Respect can both be between individuals, but can also be collective in that one society or organisation can respect another, or one person can be generally respected by a society. Respect can also apply to the inanimate in that people can generally and individually agree that they shouldn't commit acts of vandalism, or go against abstract values.

[Alex-Corsa]

Perfect example.

Israel attacking Lebanon has little to do with respect,

 

Bombing civilians and other irrelevant (to self-defence version) targets,has simply to do with ANTI-HUMAN nature. That's all they are the ones who provoke these (any side, more or less).

[helicopterjim R.I.P.]

I reckon this fellow here has some insight into certain aspects of life in the middle east.

[Ouiji Veck]

Look at it this way...

For a Muslim to walk in the house and see his children watching

Bay Watch is like you walking in on your kids watching XXX porn.

Now imagine how you would feel if the porn sellers wanted to start installing cable in your town...with the help of tanks.

How are we ever going to understand the Martians when they land?

There's only one sermon to know. They asked Him..."You have said so much,

tell us one thing, one thing so we can understand" And He did.

Thats all ya gotta know.

[dlaing]

He's young......

...all the more reason

 

My examples, rather specifically, were chosen to show that a failure to value other people when their thoughts are different from yours is a characteristic you share with some unsavoury individuals with whom I doubt you feel comfortable being associated.

I said,"While I respect people just for their value as human beiing, and I certainly respect everyone here to the degree that they have some positive qualities, I don't respect thought patterns that deviate from my thought patterns."

It is the thought patterns I don't respect, not necessarily the people that have the thought patterns.

 

 

Why? Because he has the temerity to disagree with you?

 

No, because it was rude,(EDIT strike "because it was rude" and replace with "because it was disrespectful" ) as you were, too.

It would kind of be like me calling all the supporters of seal clubbing a bunch of neo-nazi hitlers.

 

Look at it this way...

For a Muslim to walk in the house and see his children watching

Bay Watch is like you walking in on your kids watching XXX porn.

Now imagine how you would feel if the porn sellers wanted to start installing cable in your town...with the help of tanks.

How are we ever going to understand the Martians when they land?

There's only one sermon to know. They asked Him..."You have said so much,

tell us one thing, one thing so we can understand" And He did.

Thats all ya gotta know.

In some ways it has everything to do with respect.

[Guest Nogbad]

I said,"While I respect people just for their value as human beiing, and I certainly respect everyone here to the degree that they have some positive qualities, I don't respect thought patterns that deviate from my thought patterns."

It is the thought patterns I don't respect, not necessarily the people that have the thought patterns.

 

This is a cop out. I think you really are closed minded.

 

No, because it was rude,(EDIT strike "because it was rude" and replace with "because it was disrespectful" ) as you were, too.

It would kind of be like me calling all the supporters of seal clubbing a bunch of neo-nazi hitlers.

In some ways it has everything to do with respect.

 

I don't think it was either.

[John in Leeds]

So, what have you found to like about Tx Redneck?

Looks like he's coming up short....

 

 

He identified a moslem woman as a 'Lady'

 

Could this be a peek at the underlying respectful and cuddly TX