dlaing Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Are we FEEEEEEEELING just a little more heavily conflicted than usual today? My my! No more than usual. Just enjoying a little sarcasm, pointing out the folly of your ways. Come back to the light side, Master Ratchet!
Alex-Corsa Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Barrett 82A1 nuff said Now that's my favorite , any ideas how to get one? I think in the states you can buy it in a shop , right?
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Barrett 82A1 nuff said Nice! I prefer the MacMillan TAC50. I work with a mechanic who has tagged coyotes at almost 1000 yards with one. I'll have to go visit him someday ....
Guest ratchethack Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 I prefer the MacMillan TAC50. I work with a mechanic who has tagged coyotes at almost 1000 yards with one. I'll have to go visit him someday .... Nice, alright. But the Barrett's recoilless. I'm pretty sure I've got that right??
Guest Barrett82 Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Recoiless, 10 round mag Factory scope 500-2000 yards built in optics for the 50 cal Sweet setup, much fun. Nice, alright. But the Barrett's recoilless. I'm pretty sure I've got that right??
Guest ratchethack Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 Recoiless, 10 round mag Factory scope 500-2000 yards built in optics for the 50 cal Sweet setup, much fun. Semi-armor piercing and well capable of taking out two well lined-up targets with one carefully-timed shot also, as I recall. There's nothin' quite like the ability to really reach out and touch someone when duty calls. . . . . I like this link so much I just had to borrow it from Tx: http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1241.htm
Guest Nogbad Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 This sure has become a nasty evil thread, and a good argument for gun control.
Guest ratchethack Posted August 28, 2006 Posted August 28, 2006 This sure has become a nasty evil thread, and a good argument for gun control. Sure. Long as y'er comfortable with the unbroken history of what happens when all the firepower's in the hands of criminals and the military -- both yours and everyone else's military. . . . .and confiscated from the hands of law-abiding Citizens. . . . . . I reckon y'er already there, for the most part, Nog -- with the predictable results already well underway. By the grace of God it'll never happen here.
Guest Nogbad Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 It isn't the law abiding citizens that bother me. It's the insane deranged ones. Even criminals shoot on some rational basis.
Guest ratchethack Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 It isn't the law abiding citizens that bother me. It's the insane deranged ones. Even criminals shoot on some rational basis. Hmmmmm. What percentage of y'er insane and deranged population (itself hopefully a tiny fraction of a percent of the overall population?) would you consider to be a significant threat to you? We've got our share of wing-nuts running loose here in the US as well, but I've never as much as considered them statistically significant -- and certainly never gave them categorical consideration as a bother personally. Statistically speaking, the most offensive knucklehead/perp/crazies have been significantly more subdued than ever today here, thanks to ten years of state legislation opening up prior restrictions on legal handgun ownership, as I've noted in a previous post. It seems that this element of any state population is fairly transient, and when the heat is on 'em, they readily look for greener pastures elsewhere. I'm much more concerned with the threat of an immeasurably larger, not-so-deranged sub-population of professional criminals who recognize opportunity wherever they can find it, and don't hesitate to seize low hanging fruit wherever they find low resistance in the state where I live. But since I'm well-prepared (and more importantly, my community itself is well-prepared) with the best insurance that the law allows, and professional criminals know it, I never spend any time at all worring about it. Life is after all, pretty good as long as we never allow the perps to forget who's in charge (forgetting their place being something they've historically been known to do without adult supervision and frequent reminders). Now The Beeb's sensationalized portrayal (among others) of extremely rare insane and deranged murderers has led to y'er current knee-jerk reactionary public policy of implementing gun control. You have truly allowed an extremely rare and statistically insignificant number of insane and deranged people (possibly only one person?) to determine y'er public policy, and as a result, according to the most credible studies, crime rates are on the rise. Its a well-proven, oft-repeated principle, as the most credible hard science has proven. Such is the power of today's mass media over weak minds. Goebbels understood how to harness such power and bend it to the will of his Uber-Meister Propagandist, and they didn't have as much as a hint of the power and reach of today's mass media to work with. Hitler implemented gun control in Germany in 1938. Without this, it would never have been possible to launch his grand plans -- which, BTW, the population of Germany welcomed with open arms -- at first. The only insane and deranged wing-nuts that pose any threat to me are those in public office. Behold what tools fall to the hands of even more shrewd Propagandists than Goebbels today.
dlaing Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 Hitler implemented gun control in Germany in 1938. Without this, his plans would never have been possible. What kind of paranoia substances have you been ingesting? The gun control made Hitler's control easier. It was by no means a matter of possible or impossible. Get back to Earth hatchetman! Even without the yellow chicken strategy of disarming Iraq before invading it, we still would have thrown out Saddam and conquered the oil fields. But it is interesting the history of gun control aimed at the prejudiciously deemed threats of society, the poor, the black, and probably others. If Rodney King had had a gun maybe he never would of got beaten, but we don't know that for a fact, and if he had had a gun and tried to use it, it probably would have just been another dead brother. Ratchet, you really need a realty check if you think when Hitlery becomes Ruler, she'll rounding up all the rich white guys and sending them to sterilization, concentration, and death camps. The people that need to arm up to fight tyranny in the USA are the pascifists(not going to happen) and the down trodden(They can't afford it unless George Soros buys them all Saturday Night Specials) Don't worry, you are safe rich white brother.
Guest ratchethack Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 . . .The gun control made Hitler's control easier. It was by no means a matter of possible or impossible. . . .Even without the yellow chicken strategy of disarming Iraq before invading it, we still would have thrown out Saddam and conquered the oil fields. But it is interesting the history of gun control aimed at the prejudiciously deemed threats of society, the poor, the black, and probably others. If Rodney King had had a gun maybe he never would of got beaten, but we don't know that for a fact, and if he had had a gun and tried to use it, it probably would have just been another dead brother. Ratchet, you really need a realty check if you think when Hitlery becomes Ruler, she'll rounding up all the rich white guys and sending them to sterilization, concentration, and death camps. The people that need to arm up to fight tyranny in the USA are the pascifists(not going to happen) and the down trodden(They can't afford it unless George Soros buys them all Saturday Night Specials) Don't worry, you are safe rich white brother. Uh, I haven't seen this kind of wild, flailing, spittle-spewing hysteria since Aunt Gertrude had her bout with irritable bowel syndrome and projectile diarrhea that she was stricken with during the second week of her change-of-life hot flashes. My friends, no single individual can make all of this up (see above). The genesis for most of this has been carefully synthesized and nurtured in focus group marketing studies by the best in the GROUPTHINK business, strategically positioned in hate-speech political propaganda, and evidently exacerbated in the minds of the lemming/sheeple by long-term effects of nitrous oxide narcosis on dark and purply planets, far far away. From the single topic of gun control, we've suddenly careened wildly off into such multiple Modern Classic Propaganda shibboleths as Dubya invading and conquering Iraqi oil fields for plunder, presumably pumping them dry -- straight into the Dubya Valdez and the invisible underground tank farm at Crawford Ranch, Texas. Rodney King. Sterilization. Racism. Concentration camps. Death camps. George Soros buying Saturday Night Specials for the Downtrodden. [. . . .sigh. . . .] Here we have a stereotypical example of the power of Amerikan Popular Kulture mass media propaganda. It's a powerfully toxic cocktail indeed when shaken and stirred with the power of suggestion. Weak minds that've been professionally conditioned are highly susceptible to clinical grade hallucinations, from having so repeatedly drunk deeply of the Kool Aid, and seem to have no defense against it -- especially our occasional Intergalactic travellers from Remulac.
helicopterjim R.I.P. Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 Recoiless, 10 round mag Factory scope 500-2000 yards built in optics for the 50 cal Sweet setup, much fun. Recoiless action takes away some of the energy. The 10 round mag is not necessary for long range shooting but with the semi-auto capability it would definitely make the rifle more useful for closer in tactical fighting with the armour piercing rounds. The TAC50 can be more accurate and has the energy to shoot well beyond 2000 yards. It is a preferred weapon for extreme range shooting. I would enjoy either one!
Guest ratchethack Posted August 29, 2006 Posted August 29, 2006 The gun control made Hitler's control easier. It was by no means a matter of possible or impossible. Dave. Germany has not been the only gun control lesson of history. You seem to've been stuck on stupid (on this topic anyway ) since at least as far back as post #79. What part of the following do you seem to've had the most trouble with, then? QUOTE FROM POST #79: The anti-gun propagandists would have their target Proletariat remain ignorant of history. Try to deny and then ignore any of the following: In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up & exterminated. IN 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up & exterminated. Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves wre rounded up & exterminated. China establisehd gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up & exterminated. Guatemala establisehd gun control in 1970. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up & exterminated. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up & exterminated. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up & exterminated. DEFENSELESS PEOPLE ROUNDED UP AND EXTERMINATED IN THE 20TH CENTURY BECAUSE OF GUN CONTROL: 56 MILLION. The next time someone says they're in favor of gun control, ask them, "Who do YOU want to round up & exterminate?" With guns we are Citizens. Without them, we are subjects. Enquiring minds just gotta know, for no other reason than the fact that we're simply fascinated by the vibrance and texture of y'er dark and purply, other-worldly, vivid hallucinations.
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