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Dunno about the V11, but this stuff is essential with old Urals or any ancient 2 stroke with 6 volt electrics.

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Only 24% ether! What a GIRLY product. You can get 100% ether from the chemist.

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Only 24% ether! What a GIRLY product. You can get 100% ether from the chemist.

I like the 100% ether, kills bee's by only coming close to'em and the blowby mist makes you feel dizzy in a good way, or so I hear. :drink:

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Dunno about the V11, but this stuff is essential with old Urals or any ancient 2 stroke with 6 volt electrics.

 

I have also heard that WD40 works, and includes lubricants to help prevent washing off the oil film on pistons and cylinders. I don't think that is quite as effective a starting fluid as those made for starting engines, but it has worked well enough to get my tractor running when necessar. I don't know if there are silicones in WD40, but I suspect there are, just from the smell. If so, there may be some interaction with motor oil. I personally would avoid using straight ether for fear of the washing off potential.

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YIKES! WD-40!

 

WD-40 was patented, perfected, and parlayed into a $263 M USD publicly traded company right here in my "back yard". The concept was pure marketing and distribution genius. It demonstrates what packaging alone can do to create a false illusion that can launch and support an entire consumer market. WD-40 is merely something close to Stoddard solvent and kerosene, with a few percentage points by volume of penetrating oil and aromatic hydrocarbons thrown in. The raw material costs of the fluid itself are negligible compared to the propellants in the can and the packaging. I believe the material markup is among the highest of any petrochemical product on the market.

 

A business analysis service I use says WD-40 "contains the slippery stuff of myth, said to combat arthritis and attract fish, as well as unstick locks and loosen rusted bolts."

 

I've seen people spray it on the top of engines that won't start, like they're exorcising the engine compartment of evil spirits with holy water. I've seen people clean off their shoes with it, clean their driveways, spray it on wasp nests as an insecticide, get bubble-gum off the dog, and even wash windows with it. :P With the company's dependence on the widespread and continued dumbing-down of its target market, how could a company miss with a product like this? <_<

 

WD-40 makes NO claims of supernatural healing properties whatsoever (having no doubt retained a crack legal team), and yet millions believe. :o

 

The key operating principle seems to be that if you don't know why something in y'er environment isn't the way you'd like it to be, you can always "spray and pray". Brilliant. :homer:

 

I've never bought a can o' the stuff, and yet somehow I accumulated a couple o' cans that somebody must've brought over and left, I guess, decades ago, that I've hardly ever used. I do use kerosene from a gallon can fairly often, mostly for cleaning motorcycle parts. I don't know what WD-40 costs -- why pay for something that's so abundant in nature that it evidently appears spontaneously in y'er cleaning cabinet? -- but I wouldn't be surprised if an 11-oz. spray can costs more than a gallon can o' kerosene from the local hardware store. :huh2:

 

Enquiring minds reel in consideration of the cosmic ramifications. . . . . . <_<:huh2:

 

EDIT: I just called the local number at WD-40, (619) 275-1400. Check the automated greeting. At least these people are having a good time (and who among us wouldn't on our way to the bank? :whistle: ) -- Their greeting refers to their customers as "dudes and dudettes". . . . . . :lol:

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You've peddled this heretical scepticism here before Ratchet. To no avail. We still believe.

We have the shiney windows and the shiney shoes as solid proof.

Guest ratchethack
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You've peddled this heretical scepticism here before Ratchet. To no avail. We still believe.

Heh, heh. . . . and if y'er Viagara or Cialis prescription runs out, y'can always take a few shots orally.

 

It's SURE to put some lead in y'er pencil. . . . . :not:

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:o I find myself in rare agreement with Ratchet on this one. ;)

 

WD-40 is a solvent. It has no lubrication properties other than "moistening" stuck hinges etc. Even for that I'd rather use 3in1 household oil.

 

My only use for WD-40 is as a hand washer/parts washer fluid. I would never consider using it inside an engine. Or on anything I would want lubricated.

 

Rj

Guest ratchethack
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:o I find myself in rare agreement with Ratchet on this one. ;)

 

WD-40 is a solvent. It has no lubrication properties other than "moistening" stuck hinges etc. Even for that I'd rather use 3in1 household oil.

Ryan, I hate to break this to you, my friend -- but 3-in-1 Oil accounts for WD-40's #2 highest product sales -- right behind their afore-mentioned infamous Namesake Spray-on Snake Oil. . . . . :homer:

 

I only mention this as a matter of fact. I use 3-in-1 meself, and believe it to be a product that actually has merit.

 

Whatever y'can peddle to make a buck. . . . . :grin:

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Yes, but it does have more lubricating properties than WD-40 and I did specify "hinge" use. I wouldn't put in anywhere near anything that requires a real lubricant.

 

cheers,

 

Rj

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